Back at it again - justice for paladins

“ERM, NOOO!!! You don’t understand!!! The devs MEANT for the game to have two classes and nothing else!! That’s the #classic experience!!!”

This is the TWENTY YEAR anniversary and what, 3rd, 4th release of classic? Tune Paladins so they can compete somewhat in raids.

Justice for Paladins

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They are top tier healers.

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We can, you’re gearing wrong. I dont personally play Ret but I have played with Paladins who PVE as Ret; they do not need use of Exo to do 1100 DPS, and while this is short of the insanity that is Warriors, not much other than mage can keep up with Warriors.

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Who is making such statements?

:woman_shrugging:

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in SoD, Ret-Paladins have Paladin Strike, Paladin Storm, and Exorpaladin.

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OP, since you didn’t play Vanilla…the game didn’t revolve around raiding. It was, in fact, the least played type of content.

But even in terms of raiding, every class is perfectly viable. Welcome to Vanilla!

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During early P2 of WoW Classic 2019, as a long-term Paladin player (usually as an alt or second main), I rolled a Paladin, and Alliance for the first time. Anyway, I was really surprised at just how many people were playing Ret paladins.

It seems like it’s an incredibly popular class/spec combination in WoW Classic, even considering that its raw DPS output is less than some other class/spec combinations in WoW Classic raid settings.

:woman_shrugging:

It’s just a happy coincidence that 1 class gets to be both the best tank and best dps!

Right?

Vanilla also affords players ways to be creative and make things work. That’s something that’s been lost in the game over the years.

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Yeah, make someone else tank. How about give feral some sort of threat buff.

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Welcome to Vanilla.

Don’t like it? SoD is that way ----> It offers exactly what you want.
Or Cata.
Or Retail.

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This isn’t vanilla.

Are you high?

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This is a valid point. It isn’t vanilla.

:woman_shrugging:

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Yes, wanting 1 class to not be pants on head broken as the best tank AND the best dps means just play another game.

People literally celebrating a hybrid dps/tank is a better dps than all 4 pure hybrid dps as peak MMO design.

How’s the Chronoboon, honor system, layers, etc., working out for you?

Here you go:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/wow-classic/season-of-discovery/302

Blizz literally made a version of Vanilla for precisely what you want.

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“Blizz, having 1 class be both the best tank and best dps seems kind of dumb.”

“Go play a game with mage healers, rogue tanks, and 70+ abilities not even in vanilla! That’s that you want!”

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Then wait for TBC in a year.

And maybe understand there might be people who actually want a fresh experience that’s mostly authentic. But screw them right? Those people don’t matter.

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You’re absolutely right, they didn’t. The playerbase created this issue. It’s nature vs nurture. Nature is we could do all of this with any class we could get our hands on, ret or otherwise because the game was designed to work that way. Nurture is the playerbase and their parsing cancer telling everyone it has to be played this way and that only two classes matter. Boost Paladin all you want, but the problem won’t go away. Unless you out DPS or out tank a warrior, those same sweat lords are going to continue to take warrior because it’s “best” and “easy mode” And should they nerf warrior and boost Paladin? You still aren’t getting a group unless you are top DPS and can out threat that warrior which you still won’t be without absolutely breaking the class. You can’t expect the devs to fix a player created problem without the players creating a new one.

Play a warrior if its so OP.

Turns out only the best warriors are actually top dps and tanks, and most end up below plenty of other classes.

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Thank you Snipy.

I can always count on you.

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