I think I was expecting too much from the person who didn’t know how to play ele in bg’s. Carry on.
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Sorry, the thing you are missing is the op is not asking feral vs enh or rdruid vs rsham. That’s something you added in yourself with no reason to.
Ele > boomy > enh > feral for mythic+ dps
BUT go guardian in mythic+ duh? Especially with 4pc bonus is pretty insane right? So just do that. That’s what I’m saying. Druid Class is going to outshine shaman class by a mile.
Maybe more time reading and less time drooling… The OP specifically asked between the caster specs. And if we want to be technical, you were the first one to bring up specs outside of those, not Felforsale.
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Still go boomy. The difference in dps between those is small and overcompendsted by everything else. The druid class is better.
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Yeah but better doesn’t always equal more fun, I already said I don’t care about meta I have a group and were just gonna push key’s so were playing whatever we want, I’m talking about how repetitive each spec is, what has a more fun rotation, boomy or ele.
Still going to to say Ele.
Although, 1 minute Convokes will be a thing for Boomies. That’s always fun to push. Can’t really speak on Ele legendaries as I really don’t care for ranged specs
fair. i dont think ele is very fun. i dont play boomy, i play feral which is super fun, but ele is the least fun its been in several expansions.
Why……. What’s changed?
idk if this is directed at me, but ele’s damage break down is weird.
lava burst deals more damage for resto shamans than it does for ele.
I liked ele when lava burst was THE big button to press. wotlk/cata/mop and mop especially. In early CN it felt pretty good with Windspeakers Lava Resurgence because the interaction between ES buffing your next lava burst and then giving you more maelstrom towards your next big earthshock and buffing the lava burst after that… felt really good. You could semi-chain Earthshock → Buffed Lava burst → Earthshock → Buffed lava burst. (especially w/ aftershock) Then they nerfed Lava Burst because ele was doing too well when you could take advantage of that buffed lava burst + cleaving with Primordial wave.
and it just hasnt been fun since. Lava burst hits often, but hits for very low damage. Imho, its more fun to hit lava burst less frequently but a bigger reward when you DO press it.
and in AoE scenarios (like mythic+) you dont even bother with lava burst or flameshocks. its not worth it when you can just chain lightning / earthquake.
and just a few weeks ago they majorly nerfed the Storm Elemental which people enjoyed using. i never liked Storm Ele but theres a thread on the shaman forums with 700+ replies of people voicing their negative opinions on it.
there’s also some weirdness to the stat priority… You want kind of a mix of all the stats not because all the stats are good, but because all the stats are bad for a major portion of your damage. Haste is bad for all your instants (earth shock, lightning bolts/chain lightning, lava burst) Crit is bad for your Lava bursts, Mastery is bad for your lightningbolts/chainl lightnings… It just feels bad.
This is the case for every Healer. They get some of their DPS companions abilities boosted in damage for having a lack of DPS abilities becuase: healer. Like wrath and Sunfire and Moonfire all hit harder in Resto than they do in Balance.
Sadly though, this is how most specs break down. AoE filler, AoE spender, over and over and over. But I will admit, some feel more satisfying than others. This sub rogue doing SS > BP feels dull and boring and has kinda killed the spec for me (but for some reason I’m fine pumping Shadowstrikes into Evisc’s just fine…/shrug).
This is the one thing I like. This is about as close as possible to what the devs were trying to accomplish when they claimed “ilvl is the biggest upgrade”.
Instant spells unaffected by Haste
Main button smasher unaffected by crit (because it should always be critting anywho)
Mastery bad for your Shocks (not too bad for LB and Chain LBs imo, but they don’t see as much action as one would like)
But they’re all fairly well balanced and I honestly wish more classes were like this so people don’t feel bad trying to farm 2 or 3 specific items due to their stats
I really enjoy Ele’s rotation compared to Boomies. And I think the graphics and animations are a lot better on Ele’s side as well.
Did you play Ele during Wrath, Cata or MoP ?
Nope, talking about current.
Melee > Range if ever possible.
yeah. i’d be willing to bet if you played mop you’d agree.
Balance > Ele in MoP
Balance < Ele in SL
They can both be true. There’s no point in talking about which one WAS more interesting in the past when someone is asking about the current.
A lot of things were better in Cata/MoP (Cata is when I first started my Enhance and I was in love with it back then)
right. someone asked me literally, “what changed” and i said exactly what had changed. i do not like ele in slands. most people do not.
Yeah… I thought you meant like… Legion,BFA/SL
(and to be honest not much has changed)
Hence my questions, what changed?
I did expect you to bring up WoLK, like… no duh… Every class has changes since then.
i mean. mop was the last time ele was good and fun. so. its relevant. most ele’s agree that its been plummeting down the toilet since… you’re probably right in bfa it was similar to live, but thats still bad.
i mean, i brought up changed since CN and even just in the past week or two. the large nerf to lava burst and the 700 “please dont do this” thread to storm ele.
so i think yall need to stop drinking the druid koolaid, its really lowering your brain functionality.
whatever you say, dude.
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It’s true. Your brain function is abysmal. I’m guessing there’s lead in that kool-aid. It’s the only thing that explains you
Thanks for coming out.