can somebody link me a place that explains trait stacking specifically? i can’t seem to find anything on the forums and google isn’t helping out
i’m an arc mage, and quick thinking trait heals me for 5480 for every instant cast. i know for a fact that getting two more quick thinking traits doesn’t triple the effect; so how does it stack? is it even worth stacking anymore?
Hey there! The site you would possibly be looking for is Bloodmallet, here is the link to Arcane in specific. I can’t post links so just get rid of the tilde.
~https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#mage_arcane?data_view=azerite_traits&type=trait_stacking&tier=3
Essentially with trait stacking any flat boost will stack additionally, so one trait that provides 5480 will do just that, if you have two it would provide 10960, or three would give 16440.
Edit: Ignore the example as Quick Thinking, apparently it interacts differently to other traits. Perhaps as with other defensive traits. Offensive traits should generally stack in the intended manner.
The only parts of Azerite traits that don’t stack are usually the secondary benefits, so traits like Galvanising Spark. Regardless of whether you have 1, 2, or 3 traits the chance to gain an additional Arcane Charge will always only be 8%.
Hope this helps.
The rules for trait stacking differ between traits.
Generally speaking, flat values stack. Percents and things like proc chance do not.
My Open Palm Strikes ability, for example: When Fists of Fury deals damage, it has a 5% chance to refund 1 Chi, and it deals X additional damage.
The only part that stacks is he extra damage, but the proc chance and the amount of Chi refunded remains the same no matter how many traits I have.
so traits that have secondary benefits are the ones that don’t stack. that’s pretty much constant with every class and every trait right? that’s good to know
aside from that,
offensive traits: stack
defensive traits: you just have to figure it out per class
is that about right?
usually damage, stats and heals stack, while cd reduction and % chances doesn’t
Generally speaking, yes. If your trait has two functions such as increase damage by X, and gives a Y% chance to proc an effect only X will stack with multiple traits, Y will not.
So first Galv Spark will give 214 damage + 8% chance of extra arcane charge, second will only give 214 damage, third will also only give 214 damage.
So in total you would end up with 642 damage + 8% chance of gaining an extra arcane charge from 3 traits.
Arcane Pummelling will similarly only increase the Clearcasting chance by 10% regardless of how many traits you have but will increase Arcane Barrage’s damage for each trait owned.
Most offensive traits and defensive traits should stack linearly, however it appears that there are some outliers that may be designed to have diminishing returns to prevent abuse.
totally helps me out, appreciate it. clears up a lot of confusion for me
The asserite system is a confusing mess.
It baffles me that they dont see it as the mess it is… And at the same time tell us things like pvp vendors are too confusing for people to use.