Aye wine drinkers. Need your help with something

Yes this is related to WoW. I’m working on something story wise. However I don’t drink. Never had wine. So personally I have no way to really describe what certain wines in Azeroth would taste like.

The mention of a drink ain’t even that extensive in what I’m writing but I still wanna get it right.

Not all the other booze in azeroth. I mean just the wine selection.

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I don’t know anything about wine, but I can’t help but think of these scenes…

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There’s a LOT of different wine in WoW and unfortunately their range of aroma and taste is not really described.

As a frequent wine drinker and roleplayer who have seen a lot descriptions in taverns, I guess it’s up to you which kind of wine you want to take for your story and what kind of taste it will have.
There are some really heavy wines with strong flavor - with a small hint of wood, pepper. Some of them are quite complex with a lot of different aromas woven into them.
Some are quite fruity and light and have a sweet berry taste, or even cherry. Maybe even a hint of vanilla.
Some have a really mild and smooth taste with almost no sourness to it.
It all depends a little bit on what the occasion is.

Wine pretty much tastes like vinegar, some sweeter than others, but it all tastes like vinegar.

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Something you can just chug easily to get buzzed fast. Yes I know you don’t chug wine. Story just has a moment where there’s no other booze around and they want something easy to run away from sobriety quickly lol

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Maybe your wine has already gone bad. It doesn’t taste like vinegar at all. It tastes like vinegar when you should pour it down the drain already.

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As a wine drinker, first question I need to ask is what do you drink? It’s easier to describe if there’s a mutual frame of reference.

Without that, you have reds, which go from sweet and practically grape juice with alcohol to dry, which means not sweet. The latter are best with red meats, since the alcohol is more prominent. There is also an element of tannin, which is a flavor like a grapeseed if you bit into it or a walnut skin which adds to the flavor.

Whites are much the same, but the dry whites don’t have that tannin prominence. They also tend towards a more citrusy element to the taste.

Rose is in between the two, leaning more towards the whites in overall flavor.

Grape and country of origin also are a factor. Many wines are a blend of grapes, which adds to the complexity of flavor, and what they call terroire (flavor of the earth) really is a thing. For example, I far prefer Reislings (a grape) from the Rhine river valley in Germany, as the spouse lived there for a time and the flavor of those wines always brings back the memory of the place and time. The Mosel, the next river over, creates enough of a different flavor in the wines that you can tell the difference.

When you read a wine description, they will always reference fruits or other flavors. This is for reference, not that they have cherries, citrus or anything in them. It’s just that the flavor profile when you taste the wine gives you hints of the same flavors, reminding you of those things.

Some wines can be leggy, which means when you stir it in your glass, the wine clings to the sides like little legs. It’s not that the wine is thick, it’s just that it’ll tend to be strong and perhaps older and well-aged.

And you have color: Deep reds, lighter reds, shades of yellow and pink.

Does that help at all?

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Making wine and vinegar is the same process, wine is just cut short of becoming vinegar, its vinegar.

This. Wine can become vinegar, hence wine vinegar. If your wine tastes of vinegar, it’s likely vinegar. :slight_smile:

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Huh. I remember back then when I didn’t have much money and had to rely on cheap wine bottles for 2-3 bucks from the grocery store, just so I can get a little drunk.
Those were mostly wines that were a bit sour, sweet and fruity, often red wine. Not much of a complex aroma profile, just some cheap fermented grape juice. Really hard to describe. :smile:
But if there’s just some random bottle lying around in the story, it could be really anything what wine has to offer.

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Appreciate it. Its always silly having to look up so many weird things when I’m pondering a story lol. I was in no mood to read giant wikipedia articles or snobby wine websites so this works XD

Really depends on what kind of wine you’re talking about.
Wines are made from many different fruits.
Grape only wine?
Generally, the darker the wine the more bitter or dry. But that also depends on the individual drinking and the manufacturer.
cabernet sauvignon, merlot, chianti

Port is a dark wine but it is sweet and usually considered a dessert wine.

The lighter the sweeter.
zinfandel, chardonnay, riesling

Edit:
John Cleese has a nice tutorial on wine, lol

Rieslings can be dry, though hard to find in the US. :slight_smile:

Port is a wine, true but it’s a ‘fortified’ wine, so they put alcohol back in basically. There was this amazing Tawny (sort of a white wine version of Port) from Australia that people would almost fight over in the store to get, since supplies were so limited.

Sigh. Heard there was some politics/family kerfuffle in that company so we can’t get it any more.

Of course you also have winter wines, which are sweet dessert wines, and as someone else said, wines from other things: fruit (mostly berries), elderflower, dandelion, etc.

If you want the old standby “wine cooler” type thing that often is inexpensive, fizzy, and on the sweet side, go with this. https://www.wowhead.com/item=61982/fizzy-fruit-wine

If you want something a bit more adult but still light and sweet https://www.wowhead.com/item=63299/sunkissed-wine

If you want something that is sweet, acidic, but a bit salty (not something super tasty but someone desperate might drink it) https://www.wowhead.com/item=167548/kelpberry-wine

This one is a strong wine but would again be on the sweet side being a fruit wine https://www.wowhead.com/item=81415/pandaren-plum-wine

This is a Shadowlands one to drown your memories of those lost https://www.wowhead.com/item=180788/memorial-wine I would think of this as a dry red, acidic, with hints of oak, spice, and sorrow.

This would be tart and bitter I would think https://www.wowhead.com/item=128834/bradensbrook-gorse-wine

Light with a ginger kick https://www.wowhead.com/item=128833/kaldorei-ginger-wine

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I’m not a huge fan of white wine but dry reislings can be quite good especially the ones from Alsace :clinking_glasses:

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So you know all that talk about “notes of chocolate and tobacco”? All crap. No, this wine does not have any hint of berries or smoke.

Obviously different wines all taste different but the best I can describe them is they’re like… sour without being sour? bitter without being bitter? musty without being musty? Some are all these things with a bit of sweetness. Grape juice that’s gone bad? Mainly describing reds here.

OP, take it from someone who actually went to culinary school, training in hospitality, and knows a thing or two about wines. (So I do have credentials)

Being a sommelier is basically just BSing your way through it; the easiest way I can say this is the tips that I usually tell people (not saying these are tips everyone says, just something I do as a classically-trained chef.)

Never cook with a cooking wine; cooking wines are made to be weak and never bring a big enough flavor profile to the thing you’re cooking in.

I usually pair the same wine with what I cook in, AKA if you use a white wine to cook your meal; pair it with the same wine.

MY rule usually goes Red Wine - Red Meat, White Wine - White Meat. Doesn’t HAVE to be that but I usually get the most mileage out of it (could vary depending on the ingredients mind you.)

Wine tastes like rotten grapes

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Wine on a bitter scale from 1 to 10, 1 being a sour fruit like black berries or lemons and 10 being the most bitterest flavour in the world, it’s up there in the ranges of 7 to 9.

It’s a very acquired taste and a lot of people just… don’t like it because it tastes awful. I personally like to drink Raven’s Conspiracy, deep dark red without anything to it.

It burns quite significantly going down your throat to your stomach and tastes so sour that your tastebuds for sour things interpret it as it’s own thing of “This tastes like flavoured acid.”

I hope that helps lol.

Dude thank you for using in game wines cuz that makes this so much easier lol

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