'Avoid mastery"

How do Blizzard devs feel when looking at icy veins?

I’m catching up on healers in Dragonflight and the Mistweaver changes to facilitate fist weaving look great.

However, mastery wasn’t touched?

So, obviously, that means that it is basically a non-stat AND Blizzard doesn’t like re-forging secondary stats for some reason.

If you look at some of the build recommendations, people are like, “void as much Mastery as you can, because it does not interact at all with either the HoT extensions or the bonus healing that Fistweaving provides.”

Doesn’t interact at all.

That’s gotta hurt to read, if Blizzard is reading it, right? You make a class, you spend years designing and tweaking it, and then you forget to make a core stat work?

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A problem with Mastery is that it is a stat that for most healers doesn’t increase DPS, which means it needs to increase healing by a crazy amount or it is just worse.

That, on top of the fact that whatever sims Blizzard uses assume mastery is “balanced” around a scenario that doesn’t pop up that frequently.

For instance, Shaman deep-healing is dumb a lot of the time because you don’t want people to get low health.


All in all, they need to add DPS to mastery, and then they need to rethink a lot of these masteries.

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Meanwhile mastery is the best stat for mw in pvp

And mastery is the worse stat for hpal in pvp when we don’t have shadowbreaker

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I think you are reading into it too far.

For most healing classes, there are always a couple “need” stats and a couple “non-need” stats. It really will depend on the situation you are healing in, and those stat groups will flex when you dip between content forms.

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Enhancement mastery is both increase the trigger speed of Windfury Weapon and do more damage with Elemental attacks.

That has been our little secret into hitting like trucks for a while. Give us a good mix of Haste, Crit, and Mastery and we just chainsaw down people pretty fast.

I mean, I think this is slightly different because the spells you are using aren’t covered by mastery.
You need to spec for soothing mist to really benefit.

I think you’re looking at shaman mastery in a bad way. It’s not that you WANT them to be low HP, but it helps resto save lower hp allies as they don’t really have a “oh crap need big single target heals” spell.

“Look, they still don’t know how to build or play this spec”.

Felt nice in PvP. Not so much in keys.

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It’s apathy. They do not want to do the hard work of calculating the math. Apathy is why they no longer have 12 million subscribers.

They lost China and perhaps the Microsoft deal. It’d be nice to see bocci lose his golden parachute.

Like the rest of the well-rounded playerbase. “Oh, look. That still exists”

So does CT_Mod. They both have great value.

all classes have some stats that are better or worse, some are situational.
Resto druid mastery in dungeons was your best stat, because it was easy to cover a small group in hots, likewise in raid you rarely have more then 1 hot on anyone except a tank so mastery is basically useless.

Shamans deep healing is incredibly good in early progession when people are dipping low but once people have the gear and understand fights better shaman mastery is just less useful…

Just because players deem it non-optimal doesn’t mean it doesn’t increase your performance to have it or that Blizzard really cares about how players view it.

Here’s how I look at classes based on what stat they favour:

Crit - “oh, this spec will probably be fun but a little bit rng”
Haste - “I bet this feels like dogdoo until later”
Mastery - “I bet it’s just a huge aura buff to one type of dmg”
Vers - “ah, they didn’t know how to tie in the other three stats to the game play loop”

Though I do tend to play a lot of vers classes turns out taking less dmg is great.

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There is several stats, their usefulness varies from class to class, not every stat can be the top stat for every class. Crit/verse/ haste just work better right now but if they need to tweak later having mastery improved is an easy fix.

" It is also possible for Mastery to be head and shoulders stronger than even intellect."

This is also on the icy veins.

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I love the specs that scale best with haste, fast gameplay is fun! If the mastery is bad, well I am okay with this. I want that haste baby :grin:

I just imagined a speedy little person running around :joy: I AM SPEEEEEEEED

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That part was obviously left out because it doesn’t help his compliant.

Mastery is really strong for pumping pure big numbers, but since healing is a zero sum game that isn’t always what is most desired for the situation.