AV threat: "PASS ME LEAD RIGHT NOW OR YOU WILL REGRET IT!" - Account Punished

Autrwarrior-atiesh · January 25, 2020, 9:48pm

Perhaps i misread what you had wrote. It looked like you were trying to defend their behavour.

Dhalgren-blaumeux · January 25, 2020, 9:49pm

Seem to be a number of people who think the OP should have relinquished lead.

Why?

Who owns raid lead in an AV BG? Somebody in the premade? Why? what gives them any more right of ownership than any other pug that gets it?

Maybe you don’t want it and chose to relinquish it when asked. But what if you want to keep it? How is it not your clear right? If the premade people think they own lead, how come the system didn’t automatically give it to them?

Are you guys arguing that just because somebody demands to be given the lead, the other guy is supposed to give it up?

Saiph-stalagg · January 25, 2020, 9:49pm

If you aren’t leading or doing anything like marking, give it to someone who wants to do it. or at the very least give out assist. its 2 button presses.

Niia-whitemane · January 25, 2020, 9:51pm

well, per op they were winning at the time the demand was made, so it sounds like OP was doing a fine job as raid lead.

Dhalgren-blaumeux · January 25, 2020, 9:51pm

Thats how you approach it. Evidently that’s not how the OP feels about it. Why is your way correct and his is not?

That’s the great thing about WoW, we are all equal here or should be. No pay to win. No way to force other’s to play your style. There is not one correct way for anything here.

Holdit-area-52 · January 25, 2020, 9:51pm

Again, pre-made is an assumption. The OP never said the group was a pre-made.

Calciumplus-misha · January 25, 2020, 9:51pm

Come on – Do you really think that it was all about being desperate to win and not more about a powerplay and showing the dude who was boss?

If a 39/40 premade communicating over discord was going to be even more than slightly inconvenienced for 7 minutes on their zerg to Drek by not having tanks marked then they are a bunch of noobs.

They made him do what they said because they are elitist bullies - pure and simple.

Dhalgren-blaumeux · January 25, 2020, 9:53pm

So it was just some stray pug dude who felt entitled to raid lead then? Why should the OP give him the time of day let alone the lead?

Holdit-area-52 · January 25, 2020, 9:53pm

The team winning is not an indicator the OP doing a good job as lead, yet another total assumption.

Saiph-stalagg · January 25, 2020, 9:54pm

It’s not about being desperate, and I highly doubt it was a powerplay. Marking tanks and reorganizing groups helps you win. Not doing so is just hindering your ability to win even if its only slightly.

If it was a 39/40 he probably wouldn’t have had lead at the start. and to those groups r11-13 time in game matters with how AV is played right now.

I’ve decay’d down to 4 dont @ me.

Calciumplus-misha · January 25, 2020, 9:54pm

I don’t think anyone was wronged until the threat went out.

Dhalgren-blaumeux · January 25, 2020, 9:55pm

Every AV I’ve been it has 40 people shouting instructions. Why should the person randomly assigned be expected to give it to anyone?

It was his choice to keep it. Nothing more.

It was the other players choice to bully him. I hope they get a good long ban.

Dhalgren-blaumeux · January 25, 2020, 9:57pm

So lobby Blizzard to auto-assign lead to the highest rank player. But . . . that’s not how it’s done. The OP had the same right to the lead as anyone else, so he chose to keep it.

Calciumplus-misha · January 25, 2020, 9:58pm

You DON’T think turning the minor inconvenience of not having tanks marked for one 7-minute AV into a “GIVE ME LEAD OR YOU WILL REGRET IT!” followed by a clear violation of TOS to grief a player, followed by a smug tell when he came back online was a powerplay?

Niia-whitemane · January 25, 2020, 9:58pm

so you assume he isnt doing a good job as leader and must pass lead to a total stranger who rudely demanded it based on… what information exactly?

Saiph-stalagg · January 25, 2020, 9:58pm

The whisper at the end for sure. Leading up to it tho. It makes me think OP did more than he said went down. Only blizzard will know with the chat logs though.

Sariff-mankrik · January 25, 2020, 9:59pm

Kaine:

Blizzard Ticket Number: US71075460 (screenshots are included along with a list of everyone in the BG and their server). In the ticket I also included the time of day of the Alterac Valley match so that Blizzard can review the chat log.

I waited 48 hours from the time this happened to make this post. #1 Because I wanted the punishment from Blizzard to expire. #2 I wanted to research more into it to find out what happened.

I have removed the player’s name from this story to avoid the post getting taken down.

AV threat - “PASS ME LEAD RIGHT NOW OR YOU WILL REGRET IT!!!”

So I’m playing Alterac Valley and I receive a whisper. A player says “Pass me lead now!” I replied “We’re doing good this AV, and I do not want raid warnings popping up on my screen…so no.” He then responds “PASS ME LEAD RIGHT NOW OR YOU WILL REGRET IT!!!” I replied “No”. I haven’t done anything wrong…so what can he possibly do to me? Within a minute of refusing to pass Raid Leader the second time…I was logged off of my World of Warcraft account.

I tried multiple times to log back into World of Warcraft but it kept saying “Character with that name already exists and you cannot log in.” After trying to log in for about 5 minutes over and over I was finally able to log in. When I entered Alterac Valley again I was met with a whisper from the guy saying “I warned you. If you don’t do exactly what I tell you to do in the future you will get kicked again. Enjoy being squelched.” I then replied to him but the message didn’t go through. Maybe he ignored me. What does he mean by squelch?

I then messaged a friend of mine to find out what squelch meant but the message didn’t go through. I then tried to message another friend and that message didn’t go through either. I thought “Maybe this guy got me banned from sending whispers.” So I said screw it…and tried to look for a group in the LFG chat channel but I couldn’t post there either. I then realized what he meant…he meant that my account is unable to talk to any other accounts. I then went to the forums to post about this issue, but when I tried to log into the forums it said “Your account has been silenced and you cannot post on the forums.”

After doing a lot of research I realized what they did. A group of them were in a discord (or some other social platform) call. When I refused to pass lead he told the group in discord to mass report me to Blizzard for things that I did not do. Knowing that would get my account removed from the battlegrounds and punished. I did not know that players can threaten other players in battlegrounds and have their accounts punished for things they never did without any type of punishment for the people making the false reports. I certainly did not think that my account would be silenced for 24 hours for simply refusing to give into someones demands.

My account now has been punished for 24 hours. So the next time I refuse to do what someone in game demands me to do…my account will be punished for 48 hours. I think that the people who engage in threatening others should be punished…not me.

Aren’t premades great? LOL

Calciumplus-misha · January 25, 2020, 9:59pm

We can’t assume that – we’re discussing the OP’s version of it, and I think we’ve all seen comparable bastardry over the past month or so. It’s not too much of a stretch of the imagination.

Niia-whitemane · January 25, 2020, 10:02pm

yea, this sounds pretty in line with what i’ve come to expect from some premades. see: lil’ baby bruce and his forum ragefits.

Holdit-area-52 · January 25, 2020, 10:03pm

To be clear, I am not condoning the behavior of either side here.

But there are always two sides to an argument and right now we only have half the facts.

For all we know the person that requested Lead could have a completely different recollection of the events and they might have even warranted the actions.

Point is we just don’t know and to make sweeping judgement of a persons actions without the decency to get their side of events is shameful.

Yes, I said shameful, everyone who is jumping on the “The OP was wronged” bandwagon should be ashamed for having jumped to conclusion without even trying to see that they did not have all the facts.