AV que times getting into 2hrs?

Thanks for the Invitation. I did read it.

I also invite you to read this one in case you haven’t.
Alterac Valley in Classic

Now, you said that no one was playing 1.12, that is not true. I was playing it every single day back then with my friends and all other alliance in the Battle-group. There were games going every 20-25 minutes (alliance had longer queues back then compared to horde).

The problem is not the layout, the problem is who plays it and how they play it. I stand firm by this because I experienced it.

If we have R12 people Botting in the Cave instead of LEading in the front lines, lets alone the larger number of Newbies on the Alliance side not yet accustomed to Team-play but also without any Direction from the people that do. Then of course how do you want to Win?

It is easy to get people to follow the herd going directly for Drek. But Winning AV is not limited to a 7 minute Joy ride.

It was not meant to be either.