Because people are doing it for honor
99% of people are doing it for honor instead of doing something else so it’s just killing the game (AV game)
Release Arathi Basin! ! ! Hehe
You cant turtle AB, least not like you can AV. Horde wont play it.
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Also true haha
Once AB come out, i’ll be living there. Win or lose, its the best bg imo and the best fun. Games can’t really turtle, takes at longest about 25 minutes providing both teams keep changing between 2-3 bases.
Unless its a 5 cap straight away, each team is guaranteed rep per game and you’ll always be getting something out of it at least.
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You foolin yourself there.
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One of the most idiotic things you’ve posted.
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To be quite honest, all PvP problems stem from premades, and are made worse by CRBG’s and the terrible Vanilla Honor System.
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If you dont want to team up, that’s not a game problem. If you want to keep trying to put the square peg in the round hole, then that’s completely your choice. But you have no right to get angry and demand change when that doesnt pay off for you as well as you’d like.
I didn’t get angry or demand change, I made a statement of fact.
If premades didn’t exist at all, the only problems would be afk’ers and bots. The existence of premades degrades PvP for everyone, including the premades, who just dodge the other premades so they can dominate pugs because muh honor-per-hour.
In fact, if Blizzard forced premades to play only other premades, there would be no premades.
Games where an entire team hides and refuses to res isn’t fun regardless of what side you’re on.
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Hames where 1 team turtles mindlessly and makes the while game last 40 min instead of 10 are worse. Its better to stay in the cave or stay ghost and punish team turtle power by removing their ability to pvp.
The reason the AV games are so bad for right now for alliance is precisely because of the existence of the premades.
The premades do two things for alliance, they segregate the good players from the bad players/afk’s/bots, and they make defending pointless because the premades are winning in 6 minutes.
If the good players were mixed into the same games as the bad players, and there weren’t premades getting 30k honor per hour. The games would be more balanced, and there wouldn’t be a culture of “lose as fast as possible”.
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Unbalanced factions.
There soo little alliance pvpin that there isn’t randomness for alliance bgs.
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I agree with red I think it’s premades cause it separates pros from noobs and then every game is just lopsided
Problem is people cried about the premades. So all you did was take the most skilled and dedicated Alliance from the pool.
Original honor system has the problem of he who has the most time gets the shinny.
There is nothing inherently bad about those things. Nothing is stopping anyone else from joining a premade or forming their own.
Why is that a problem? Its no different than DKP. He who spends the most time deserves the shiney.
Why should someone who plays 4 hours a day expect the same rewards as someone who plays for 8? Why should the 8 hour player expect the same reward as someone who plays for 12?
Because they dont have as much free time to play? That’s not a game problem.
Except, that it was recently changed to allow groups of 5, not 30-40. So, how bout we just fix it so that square peg fits in square peg hole.
I never said it was a problem. Just a lot of people crying that they can no longer be carried by the premades. Thankfully the highly skilled and dedicated Alliance players will get the best items soon.
Many people want premades to have a separate premade vs premade queue. But if a premade vs premade queue existed, it would be completely dead.
Premades don’t exist for a challenge, they exist for the reward. If you remove the reward(IE better honor-per-hour), there would be no premades.
What the premades want is the most lopsided and unfair games possible. And when premades can’t get easy wins, they quit.
The only way premades work, is when games are matched based on skill, and where there is a benefit to playing against other premades.
I understand that anyone could make their own premade, but if everyone was in a premade, the top teams would just curb-stomp all the lesser teams until the lesser teams quit playing.
Premades ruin everything. But as long as they exist, you cannot compete unless you join one.
You can still group up with 30 or 40 people. None of that changed.