AV is quick and boring

Not me. I will be working actively to sabotage the other side. Back capping GYs and towers. Clueless zergs that rush past will find themselves without a forward GY. Then they will be forced into a defensive position. I can’t always pull it off - but sometimes 1-2 people can turn a quick AV into a hours long slog. That is my goal.

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This is depressing news…

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People can change their behavior. You can argue that they should. And perhaps you’re right. But they won’t.

That’s the point. Human nature is what it is.

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Uhh… buddy you’re on the winning side, by the time you even halfway cap anything your team won. GRATS

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If we can just ignore towers then not really.

I won’t pretend to remember all the iterations of AV, but there were times when you’d wipe by trying to zerg or go with 2 towers up. A lot of time was spent waiting for towers to cap to pull and a band of 3 or 4 people who retake a tower could ruin it for you.

If there’s no reason to cap towers no one is gonna do it.

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Classic AV is balanced around having a mix of lvl 51s to 60s. That’s what happens when everyone is lvl 60 with raid gear.

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I didn’t play in the beta, either, but my hunch is that people are just after the fastest possible honor and rep gain now; whereas in the beta, the only objective was PvP.

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No, we didn’t. Go read the AV post to see what version people really wanted.

Technically it was stated once, but I’m not sure why you even bring it up. I knew it was coming, doesn’t mean I have to like it.

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how long are horde’s queues for AV?

Just went in and it was a rush, no honor kills. Blizzard is full on garbage with their decision with this version of AV.

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Finished a 5 minute match. There were maybe 10 HKs between both factions. It sucks.

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I disagree. This is the AV that allows such passive gameplay. We used to have one with pumped up NPCs and faction-based turn-ins, stuff to do besides haul ace to the end.

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It’s not. Rushing shouldn’t be possible as the towers should actually be able to kill people and the final boss guards with the towers still up should make it too difficult without well coordinated 4-5 tanks and healers.

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Dont worry, the anniversary event is the old 1.5 AV and both teams still run past each other and there is very little PvP.

It’s the nature of the objectives being PvE based.

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This is NOT AV 1.12 as promised. This is the total nerf ZERG run and once people are exalted this will be over and no one will do it for pvp. shame on you Blizzard

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This is just pitiful and even worse you cannot group or raid setup into AV. This is just a complete waste of time because they expect 40 random strangers to be coordinated beyond just zerging, which will never happen.

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We got the 1.12 version of AV

Alas #nochanges means they wont fix things.

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Wanted doesn’t mean anything. This was a version of AV that was in Vanilla. Maybe not what you WANTED but it’s vanilla AV none the less.

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You were told exactly which AV was coming long ago. This shouldn’t have been a surprise. That’s on you, buddy.

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No it won’t. If anything it is going to lead directly to cave afking and cries of “hurry up and lose”. This is EXACTLY what many of us have been fighting against.

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