Av is proof Arena is superior

Arena is the greatest thing to happen to pvp for anyone trying to be good at pvp rather than trying to be geared from pvp.

Save your “bLiZzArD sAiD iT wAs a MiStAke”…

literally no one is thrilled about classic pvp and the actual time you have to be logged in to get a rank that people not at their keyboard are also getting is cringy. This made me realize just how amazing the addition of arena was.

Do you hate ques and think you’re decent in pvp? Then you probably are patiently waiting for TBC server just like your uncle smartdeath is.

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Pillar-humping and spell-juking ad infinitum are cut from the same crap cloth.

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If you’re not concerned with the ranking meta, AV could be made way more fun if it wasn’t the 1.12 version and if premades were done away with

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How they changed classes in pve for pvp balance was something I never liked.

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Arena superior? Yeah if you like welfare epics. Hold my beer while I make an arena team 1500 lose 10 games real fast and get my points. Next week just make a new 1500 team rinse and repeat. EZ epixs

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I tried arena, didn’t like it. I much prefer large scale PVP.

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Arena was one if not the worst addition in WoW history. The whole thing revolves around lining up cooldowns/CCs to burst down the unkillable healer.

It’s literally some of the worst PvP ever made in ANY video game.

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Arena flows FROM the Meta. There’s nothing organic or fun about it. Classes are dissected, roles are pre-assigned, and then the scripts are executed. Those with the best gear, best addons, and best macros have a distinct advantage.

That’s the playstyle. If you like that Arena is fun.

BG’s give that random encounter kind of feel to PvP that makes the games unpredictable and fun (IMO).

Opinions differ.

But what does not differ is that Arena has never drawn a very large following compared to the outsized influence it has had on WoW’s design and direction.

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Immediately wrong.

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Nah.

I have always hated arenas. Chasing druids around poles for 20 minutes is not fun.

Yea… So its Pvp that requires coordination, strategy and has a high level of individual accountability.

Sounds terrible… MORE AV GUIS. AV IS REAL PEEVEEPEE!

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You mean specific class compositions that changed nearly every patch, the introduction of FOTM to the WoW playerbase’s vocabulary and PVE nerfs because of PVP whining.

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And your argument that AV is better is?..

Yet you won’t get an decent gear that way and need to win to get points.
1650 Rating was the first piece of the set.

Yea, who wants a consistantly changing meta. “MY CLASS WAS OP WHEN I ROLLED IT AND THAT SHOULD NEVER CHANGE. EVER!!!”

PVE never got nerfed solely because of PVP.

If you really think FOTM was a BC thing you werent around for the many years before that… or you weren’t paying attention, or you’re making stuff up to make a point

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Woefully incorrect. Let’s start back in TBC with warrior Mace Specialization and Stormherald. I don’t have time to do your research for you but there were dozens of PVE nerfs solely due to PVP “issues”.

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Spoken like someone who has never been 1600+ a day in his life

But how popular are arenas nowadays?

Arenas killed class design forever, it’s a fact.

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