We need changes to AV, this rushing Drek or Van in 7 mins with no towers taken is absolutely disheartening and the game mode is very unfun. Hardly anyone PVP’s in AV, the honor is so high that WSG and AB are largely useless.
You can correct some changes for the future like for Classic + I would like to see AV go back to its ORIGINAL form, I’m talking reinforcements, the air strips and all of that.
As for current release as the PVE mode, I would like to see LT’s be un-kitable and more powerful so it at least forces players to play the objectives like take bumkers so they have an easier chance at downing Drek or Van.
Right now 7 min AV games is absolutely soulless and the people who say #nochanges to classic, I can’t believe are fine with this when this current AV isnt the true original classic AV.
Although this is categorically true since they’ve made changes to the bg itself the more important aspect is the players aren’t the same as they once were
The ones you’re queueing with are rat racing to rank 14 and most likely most of them will not touch battlegrounds again, they’re simply there to get items to make them do more damage in raids
Naxx phase will be very interesting to see, curious to see if once people are Naxx bis they’ll finally start qing wsg/ab
As someone else said, people minmax AV because theyre rat racing R14. TBH if Blizzard keeps this PvP ranking setup they need to keep people locked to R10 gear til the end of BWL.
AB and WSG are dead because you cant premade in AV and nobody wants to ever deal with premaders ever again.
The most ironic thing is that all alternatives to 7min games are just objectively worse. Last week I missed cutoff for honor on my 51 Lock by 356 honor, because are had a couple stinkers turtles where Horde wanted to mess around. No big deal for me I suppose, nth character PvP ranking is not that important, but I weep for the other people suffering to these turtlefests.
until they find a way to actually reward people for playing the bg for longer periods without being wholly negative and penalizing people, screw turtles.
they serve no purpose and produce no good actual pvp other than mobs of people vs 1 or 2 stragglers which isnt fun for either party and the honor gained is crap.
you want real pvp?
go do ab or wsg.
at least then the odds are that you wont get overwhelmed by masses of people and have maybe a fairer fight (unless its a premade then god have mercy on your soul).
This is what people want that hate vanilla and plan not to play it after TBC/Wrath era exist. Like littering on their beach vacation and letting the locals clean it up.
If you don’t like the meta it is within your power to change. There’s things you can do both solo, and with a group, that will shift the way the game is played. If you want to do this though, I would strongly urge caution in how you communicate with other players as people will try to goad you into engaging in inappropriate communication in order to get you banned. I would also try to ensure that you’re playing for victory. Like, if you’re Alliance, defending Van is perfectly fine, feel free to wipe the Horde! However, if you’re playing Horde and train the Druids into Van’s room to wipe your own team, there is a risk that you will get account actioned.
I think some changes to AV would be beneficial, but ultimately a player base focused entirely on the reward is going to find ways to meta game that too. It’s not really a bad thing that people can get fast honour here, it is kind of a terrible grind after all. It’s just bad that it’s so completely taken over.
Next AV weekend, grab a few friends and go see if you can disrupt the meta. Cause some wipes, defend some bosses, and have some fun!
I think if you want to pvp in AV that is fine, if you want to rush boss (battle grounds objective) that is fine too… anything involving these two things are also okay imo. Really the only things I am against are afking and sabotaging your own team.
That’s not the original form. Original form was AV as it is now in classic but no one rushed. They were HK farms where you would play in one for a couple hours at night. Go to bed, wake up in the morning, queue up for another and end up in the same exact one as last night.