AV Cave Rez situation

[Januaryy-kelthuzad]

Uh, because of the GY advantage that has been explained like literally 10000 times in this thread? lol

I guess you’ve never heard of the backdoor either? But that’s been explained too.

Fixed delusions are a dangerous thing. You should get checked.

[Boeuff-earthfury]

bro i dont care i was watching your post there was no lol in it .

am sorry were wasting time but do you wanna go/

[Viratrix-blaumeux]

1. no they can’t even in your example it took 30 cordinated alliance to hold an advantage.
2. they still have to push past IWB choke and retake SHGY where that whole advantage is gone.
3. still ignoring Lok

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

But the caliber of alliance playing AV vs the caliber of the horde playing it

SAYS THE 1500 RATED PLAYER OMG.

THIS IS COMICAL.

[Misadventure-herod]

@Viratrix-blaumeux

I just showed that it took Blizz 3 months to fix the map after the horde adopted the current strategy on the current map in TBC because it was so obviously unbalanced.

You are once again demonstrating a lack of knowledge about AV. What is currently happening in AV is not even remotely the strategy that horde did in tbc, as the win condition is radically different.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

So the fact alliance have the best choke point in the game and the ability to have 30 Rez/ cycle at that choke point means nothing?

Got it.

So then how is the 20/cycle cave op again then? I mean alliance get 30/cycle at their most defensive spot. Horde only get 20/cycle at our best defensive spot for horde.

So…

[Januaryy-kelthuzad]

So you’re a liar too. I guess that fits with your prior posts. What a joke you are. lol

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

So 40 horde are up north and 40 horde are at IWB. Got it. Confirmed map imbalance alliance get 40 players, horde get 80.

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[Viratrix-blaumeux]

Well considering that

1. it is demonstrably NOT the best choke point on the map due to numerous points, which you ignore.
2. The advantage only gets you back to 1 GY south where the horde still control 2/3 of the map and leaves the alliance still in a losing position.

[Boeuff-earthfury]

so you dont wanna go. Maybe i was wrong about the lol i can remove the message i dont care about it .

I care about if you wanna go or not .

[Misadventure-herod]

@Ziryus-doomhammer

@Puth-grobbulus

@Viratrix-blaumeux

60% are typically considered serious bugs.

no its not, back in wod, when alliance had a huge winrate, people blamed the imbalanced pvp racials. no one called them a bug because they weren’t bugs. you cant just latch that term onto anything that’s abused.

and if there were wod classic servers, they’d keep those same racials. imbalances aren’t going to be rebalanced for classic.

Allliance never had the win rate horde does.

Who made any such claim?

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

@Ziryus-doomhammer

Yeah it really can’t. Either alliance pugs are worse than horde pugs or they aren’t. And as they aren’t on the othe two maps… seems to be a map issue not an alliance issue.

“correlation does not imply causation”

You cant even compare the other bgs to a 40 man bg let alone use their outcomes as proof of a supposed map imbalance.

As a faction, the alliance dont care about AV. I dont know what part of 2+ hours wait vs instant queues is throwing you off.

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

But the same people who que AV also que those same BGS, so how is it possible those “trash” alliance players who lose 95% of the time in AV are just so darn good at the other 2???

[Viratrix-blaumeux]

Thank you for proving you cannot read.

I did not say IBGY, I said IWB you know the choke point the horde get when they cap SHGY, the one they rez to defend at closer than the alliance do till they hard cap SPGY.

So best case scenario the Alliance can leverage the Bridge to push and retake SHGY after letting the horde hardcap SPGY.

Now if the horde stay on offense its 40/30 and probably have lok.

or they can pause there offense to turn south and wipe out the alliance and retake SH easily because you know the Alliance have no respawns and they are back to where they started controlling 2/3s of the map.

Or the Horde send 5 people south and now have numbers advantage north with constant pressure to win the game soon, while having plenty on defense to stop any alliance south because they can respawn and the alliance cannot.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

When horde reach the bridge they tunnel.

Having a group of 5-10 alliance go south and soft cap EVERYTHING and then just hard defend at horde base.

Horde will either keep tunneling for the win or go back. When they go back alliance make their push.

It is entirely possible to go from your last base all you have left to a win because there is no reinforcement mechanics in 1.12 AV.

[Viratrix-blaumeux]

Oh so you just have never played AV…

when the alliance softcap anything the horde send a team of 5 to go retake it.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

When you have typed IBGY so much your auto correct changed IWB to it…

Regardless your acting like horde have a team of 80…

[Viratrix-blaumeux]

No I am acting like when the alliance have no way to respawn in the south the Horde can easily defeat them with a team half there size, because the horde can respawn.

because that is how the map works, which you would know if you actually played it instead of lying about it on the forums.

[Corpseknife-mankrik]

@Drinknblink-whitemane

But the same people who que AV also que those same BGS, so how is it possible those “trash” alliance players who lose 95% of the time in AV are just so darn good at the other 2???

You got any evidence to support that? Cuz I dont think theyre doing AV. My queues for WSG and AB are a minute. My queue for AV is 117 (1:57) minutes at the time of this post.

Theyre not in AV.

[Boeuff-earthfury]

so what are we arguing about again ?