AV Cave Rez situation

[Boeuff-earthfury]

can we get fact in there and less personal feeling. Get it strait the cave was not a bug a bug would be that it was not intended to be this way.

Also how would any body know unless blizzard cm confirm what is a bug and what is intended.

[Boeuff-earthfury]

@Drinknblink-whitemane

You can use that excuse all you want, everyone has heard the old “my main acct is glad” this is my " other account" excuse. LOLOLOLOL

how about you calm down. Your a bandwagon that goes no were right now

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Puth-grobbulus

@Viratrix-blaumeux

60% are typically considered serious bugs.

no its not, back in wod, when alliance had a huge winrate, people blamed the imbalanced pvp racials. no one called them a bug because they weren’t bugs. you cant just latch that term onto anything that’s abused.

and if there were wod classic servers, they’d keep those same racials. imbalances aren’t going to be rebalanced for classic.

Allliance never had the win rate horde does.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

My brother took the main account.

When vanilla came out we were kids that shared the account our father bought and payed for for us.

As the end of TBC hit we got our own accounts. Him being the oldest he got to keep the account and I had to get my own.

But you do you Mr armory champion.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

That’s because horde still kept trying to win instead of rolling over.

[Viratrix-blaumeux]

Oh you mean things like
Where the LTs are?
or where the Bunkers/Towers are and what they can hit where?
or where the GYs+caves spawn people?
or where the choke points of the map are?
or where the lok/ivus summoning spots are?
or where the terrain gives advantage to one side?
or where the aerial assaults are?
or where the midpoint of the map are?
or where flanks exist?

those kind of facts that I have given and shown give major advantages to the Horde?

or do you mean facts like
“its due to deafeatist attitude” (feelings)
or
“horde just try harder” (feelings)
or
“Bridge is strongest choke” when all facts above show this to be false.

See one side is providing facts the other is not.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Coming from the guy claiming the bridge is useless …

[Viratrix-blaumeux]

and then backed it up with reasons why, which you have utterly failed to address…

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

Bro I have 0 idea what you’re ever even trying to say???

Use a better translator please.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

That’s because horde still kept trying to win instead of rolling over.

Weird how when the maps gives them a huge edge that works works.

[Boeuff-earthfury]

@Jadei-grobbulus

Makes no “logical sense” to hold it forever. If we are trying to take anything south, eventually we will have a weaker defense that loses to horde throwing wave after wave of bodies at SHGY.

il be honest other than the removal of the premade in av what stop pug ally from doing the same thing. I know horde clash with them in the mid then there a long fight to take any cimetary depending how many afk the composition of each raid . I remember one time 3am not even 1 heal in the whole raid group. after 1 hours balinda still alive. not graveyard taken on each side. I dont know i was being stupid i went an bought some av rep intel stuff and start to heal people. Then i realize no one was tank ether. We started to win at aroun 5 am when some left and some heal join a rank 14 warrior with windseeker join wich helped extremely our push

there obviously a problem in av and i dont know what it need

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

Read the 1111 posts, it’s all outlined there.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

My comment was in reply to the winrates of WoD and why it didn’t reach the levels classic AV has. Because horde didn’t give up in WoD, alliance did and still do in AV classic.

[Boeuff-earthfury]

just freaking post on your main wtf is hiding trahs. I dont get it seriously

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

@Redheadchild-kul-tiras

My comment was in reply to the winrates of WoD and why it didn’t reach the levels classic AV has. Because horde didn’t give up in WoD, alliance did and still do in AV cl assic.

It’s okay, many people understand the issues with AV. It doesn’t make you less of a man that you don’t.

Ah… to be PC less of a person.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

Because you can’t aoe?
Because you can’t use your trinket?
Because you can’t talk to each other?
Because you can’t distract the horde with having just a few people south to distract horde with soft capping and prevent summons?

The graveyards (if they are broken) should be looked at, but there is plenty of examples of alliance just not TRYING.

[Jadei-grobbulus]

You’re right. There are problems with AV and they’ve been explained, in detail, in this very thread. This weird flex coming from an occasional horde player that it’s because alliance are bad “makes no logical sense” when alliance can and do win on the other two bg maps.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

It’s odd how you can’t seem to understand the map isn’t the issue in AV causing a 95% horde win rate.

There’s so many factors and you dismiss everything but the map.

It’s almost like the 15 years of alliance winning the majority of 1.12 AV never happened in your mind.

But hay, it’s ok if you have trouble understanding historical evidence of the map not being the issue.

[Drinknblink-whitemane]

You admitted in this very thread horde and alliance rushed in vanilla, yet you’re still spouting this same nonsense??

Your rating is showing.

[Redheadchild-kul-tiras (Redheadchild)]

I’m not saying there is no issues with AV, but the majority of the losses for alliance are not being chased by the map.

If the GY spawn spots are bugged then the map would consist of a 40/60 ish winrate, favoring horde. And the GY spawning should be fixed.

However the people claiming the 95% loss is because of the map… They just want free wins. I prefer the AV games were alliance try, were it’s a challenge. But 90% of the AV games I play, alliance finish their rep turn ins then roll over…