AV Cave Rez situation

So at last you agree that you do in fact have that burden, you should start actually providing evidence of these claims. It’s been months now and so far there has been nothing presented

No. I agreed to no such thing, in fact I rejected it entirely. You should really work on your reading comprehension…

You did agree to the convention that the accuser no matter what has the burden of proof

Alliance players are making accusation, they have the burden of proof as you said. This is why people never take anything at face value from nay Alliance players, they admit to something then immediately try to say the opposite.

This is why the burden of prrof of objective independent verfiable evidence as you agreed, falls upon the alliance players making these accusation. It must be evidence that all players can agree on.

So far nothing has been presented that even closely meets that hurdle, it is odd that you did in fact agree that you have the burden of that evidence but provide no evidence whatsoever.

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I didn’t, I only applied your standard to you and noted you had made an accusation and provided no information, showing yourself to be just a trolling hypocrite.

I never accepted it.

You did, and you’ve undermined any argument you make from this point from no trying to move the goal posts.

You absolutely agreed to the convention that burden of proof of bias falls upon the accuser to provide such objective independently verifiable proof. As much as you would like to try you cant wiggle out of what you agreed to

LOL by all means… quote me accepting it.

You admit it here, i didnt mention any court of law only you brought that up.

Again you’re trying to change your story

Key word, agreed upon

I said quote me agreeing to it.

I just quoted you

Hard to quote you more since you already agreed to it.

/sigh

Muting and moving on. I’m sorry about your education, but this was just painful to watch you flail.

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This is what you’re best at it seems, actually engaging in debate, providing evidence is not your strong suit. I suggest you tend to your own education first

Debating with alliance on this forum is akin to arguing against the Chewbacca Defense or the Peewee Herman “I know you are, but what am I” tacts.

To Wit:

“FACTS! (look at the monkey. Look at the silly monkey)

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My personal experience has alliance at about 60% win rate for AV weekend. I’ve taken hundreds of peoples given win rates (from discord server and here) and they average to about 40% for alliance on AV weekend. Last I did the math it was a 38.97% winrate for alliance on AV weekend, and that was before scott gave his statistics for AV weekend. So yes I’m fishing the numbers slightly. From basically a 39% to 40% but I have said “about” every time to show it’s not a hard 40%…

I’m sorry you only want to count the statistics of the defeatists and ignore the statistics of anyone even remotely successful in alliance AV winrates for AV weekend. But that doesn’t remove them from being there.

Yes how silly of me. I shouldn’t take the screenshots of people’s win/loss record in AV, but I should believe someone who has no evidence or actual stats to show the win rates of his personal experience.

The guys with the screenshots are wrong. The guy who has the “feels” of win rates is correct.

Even in the latest AV video the guy has the addon I’m talking about.

He’s 0-29 in AV. He did all that on the weekend.

0-29.

40% though right!?!?!

Did he happen to post the screenshots of the scoreboard at the end that reflects how many non-participants there were in each game?

I don’t think they can do that but I’m sure you’re going to use your feels on how many were AFK for both sides.

I’m guessing you’ll say zero on horde and 38 on Alliance because that fits your agenda better.

His own argument defeats itself.

Even if alliance have a couple more afk’s than horde on non AV weekends days(and horde don’t have none nor do alliance have the massive amounts he lies about them having) On AV weekend when both sides have the same numbers of afk’s the win rate still stays abysmal for alliance.

So his own argument proves it’s not the players, it’s the map.

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There whole argument is based off Feels, never has any actual proof or evidence to reinforce their argument.

Of course they can do that. Simply sort the scoreboard by objectives assaulted, objectives defended, kills, etc. Don’t be surprised when the entire bottom of the list is blue.

To wit:
https://i.imgur.com/D8Lxapw.jpg
And sorted by HKs:
https://i.imgur.com/va5lZNG.jpg

I mean hell, you lot do not even bother to cap a mine so you can get some rep ticks.

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I love how you ignored everything else, and focused on a point neither side provided.

I love how you refer to is as “you lot” as if wanting a balanced map for both sides is somehow wrong.

Ignore all the other actual data on the video, or screenshots from players on these forums. Ignore all of that and post how you “feel”, with no supporting data.

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