AV Cave Rez situation

Good god almighty, that has been answered DOZENS of times in this thread.

Must have been a bad explanation if you used this time to cry instead of quoting it.

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For one, the other bgs dont allow level 51-59s in with the 60s. The second and probably largest reason, is the alliance doing AB/WSG are not doing AV - at least not on a scale that would really impact win rates.

From there you look at queue times, the overarching pvp meta, etc.

Not to mention the cancerous cheerleaders who have the bulk of the non holiday weekend alliance players believing that they should not even bother to try to win. Add to that the anonymity and absence of accountability in a 40 v 40 all-servers-dumped-together queue system.

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Youā€™re the biggest cancerous cheerleader iā€™ve ever seen. Nope, canā€™t be broken maps and racials. DEFINITELY the other guys that are bad. Iā€™m not bad, but everyone else is bad. Definitely them. Not us. Shut up with your horde privelege already.

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He knows that all his reasons are ultimately just symptoms of the map imbalance not the root cause.

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I was repeatedly flamed and threatened in AV after it first came out for trying to cap SF or SH because then it would be a turtle and waaahhh waahhhh wahhhhh.

Still goes on today when I sit by a flag in stealth in AB when facing a sweatymade. If I extend a game an extra 20 sec people lose their crap and I get over the top vitriolic whispers and threatened in chat etc.

Ive seen the same thing on the alliance side - hey guys, rep has been maxed out, stop stalling the horde so we can get out of here - just roll over dudesā€¦omg those guys are still fighting horde in our base, vote them afk so they get kickedā€¦

Sorry hon, but it is not the map that is causing the 99% losses. Nor is it the racials, which are identical to those in vanilla (let me stop you before you continue, to remind you that overall population has nothing whatsoever to do with a capped BG team ratio)

It is precious having you call me a cheerleader, when I have encouraged alliance to TRY to win, while those like you and Zyrius and Drinkinblink actively discourage such.

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Your reasoning is as absurd as blaming someone dying of suicide on the hiccups they had.

edit: And the absurdity of you of all people complaining about the version of AV that you yourself lobbied for prior to itā€™s release.

Being able to identify issues and what point a game is effectively over instead of beating your head hopelessly against a wall as you suggest is not the same discouraging people to win. Itā€™s merely a sign of experienced pvpers.

Oh, is THAT what you are? An experienced PVPer?

Given how poor your understanding of AV is, more so than you :slight_smile:

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Just stop queuing for AV. And if you have already done that then you really got nothing to complain about.

Well no I have something to complain about, Iā€™d like to actually be able to queue for fun AVā€™s especially with how infested WSG/AB are with premades.

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AV is only as fun as you make it. No dev, no player can do that for you.

Winning definitely helps there but if youre saddled with so much dead weight that its rare to see a win then maybe its more proactive to just call it what it is and realize this is as good as its gonna get.

Or roll horde.

Complete apathy isnā€™t really a valid response.

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Way to just dismiss everybody else who has lost by saying they havenā€™t tried. Like seriously?

Some random guy shows a couple wins in the sea of 100s of alliance players who show nothing but loses, which clearly shows the ratio of wins to losses be9ng skewed, and you point to him and say "Hey look you guys can win sometimes!ā€™

This is not a defense of his argument. Ot reinforces mine

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Neither is deluding yourself with fluff and bullspit but one is definitely more preferable to the other when you gotta read some of this stuff.

Horde having rankers and alliance not having rankers argument is such complete nonsense.

There are infinitely more non rankers than rankers. There is mathematically no possible way that the av win rate can be due to rankers in anyway shape or form

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