AV Cave Rez situation

They absolutely have seen it, and the many alliance characters and alts that are being as rude and insulting as possible. Not to mention the occurrences of certain individuals abusing the report system and flagging those who they disagree with as “threats of real life harm”.

Of course they see it.

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Remove cave rez for both sides until there are no other options, stop sending alliance from SFGY to DB Shen they have SH. Is there anyone that doesn’t actually support those changes?

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There’s people who think the issues are entirely player based and the map is perfectly balanced.

They can’t elaborate on why but yes there are people who believe that.

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There you go twisting the truth again.

We are not claiming the map is perfect. We just don’t see the 99% loss rate as being caused purely by the map.

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Discussing the exact percentages is irrelevant, either the map needs to be fixed or it doesn’t.

You guys HAVE to stop responding to redheadchild and misadventure. Both are trolls. They bring NOTHING to this discussion.

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Sorry if opposing viewpoints are disrupting your echo chamber.

edit: it’s pretty clear that you have an issue with PVP in general:

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I haven’t read many opposed to these. Definitely no one vehemently so.

There was a perfectly decent, relatively calm and polite thread about those two specific AV flaws. It was left to fall off the view of the forum.

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For the most part, this thread hasn’t been nearly as heated as you would expect either. Honestly, I just want the change so I can get back to fun games and reasonable queues.

Well there have been plenty of false reports…

aimed shot doesnt workon here with shadowmeld lol

I want those 2 changes for a number of reasons:

  • To remove excuses
  • They are deserving of change

That said, I still don’t think that it will change much in regard to the win/loss ratio. Bottom line being that the games would still be longer than alliance want them to be. I suspect that nothing less than a 50/50 split and 5 minute games will satisfy those who have been harping on things in this thread.

Personally I do not care about HPH. I want a genuine opponent who wants to win, and is not going to lay down and give up if it is not HPH equal to WSG/AB. The excuses will continue, and the defeatist cheerleading will persist.

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Oh, are they still talking here? I ignored them long ago and the discussion has been much more civil and interesting since then.

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No, but you can be stealthed until you start the aimed shot cast. And if someone is busy trying to cap the flag, it means you get a free aimed shot.

It’s great for ambush openers and chosing your fight.

You can also confuse the enemy by having your pet on /stay Ina different spot than you if you don’t have a cat with you. Putting the pet at 40ish yards from you and melee open on the pet means you get easy kiting.

I don’t know what the win rate would change to but it would certainly go up.

And no alliance still will not bother with games where horde have SHGY and alliance have nothing south. Regardless of hph or whatever those games are simply not fun for alliance and fixing the cave situation will not change that. Fixing the cave though would result in less games ending up at that point though.

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I’m offended and appalled at this statement sir.

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No more getting ported from SF to DB. No more cave rez for either side until it’s the last option.

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Blizzard has had plenty of time to adjust AV. They obviously just don’t care about Classic, especially when it comes to PVP.

A strange game…

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I just want to say that whatever posts talk about alliance wins, there are infinitely more about alliance loses.

When scotpollard says ye went 40%, me and 99% of everybody else will counter we lost over 30 games in a row.

There is more consensus on alliance losing than winning bu a long shot

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