Automated Bans will slowly destroy Classic

[Hustus-boulderfist]

I hope this is alowed,
but you sound like the biggest fail on all the forum posts I have ever read. You may need to get help.

[anon88262317]

@Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders

And…you have proof of this?

R

[anon83669306]

So, basically, even though WOW: Classic does not have ranked play, and therefore would have no “automated ban”, you’d rather stick to that claim.

I’ll just disagree with your entire premise and look forward to the “destroyed” WOW: Classic full of players who don’t do their best to disrupt other players.

[Switzy-stormreaver (Switzy)]

Being silenced in Classic WoW is just as debilitating. It’s a heavily social game, more so than any other game I’ve played, and not being able to talk in a social game is fatal to the experience.

[Twidget-wyrmrest-accord (Twidget)]

@anon88262317

Rainer Wöß (NandeHotS)

@followgrubby @BlizzHeroes hes suffering

10:45 AM - 11 Jul 2017 106 14

Says right there on the screen he was suspended and silenced, not banned, for 24 hours. You really should learn how things in WOW work before you post these conspiracy theories.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

You show me a screenshot of a GM not overturning the silence…where the proof that it was overturned by Blizzard? You are struggling brah…

[Narya-kirin-tor (Narya)]

Biases are interesting things. I’ve watched the culture the game exists in become more and more vicious and hateful, and seen a larger number of people decide that “ignore them” has just let the weeds grow to the point they’re killing the garden.

Indeed.

I think Zerghogg and his “clan,” whatever that means, may well get banned. And if they do, they will say all they were doing was PvPing.

[Twidget-wyrmrest-accord (Twidget)]

Being silenced in Classic WoW is just as debilitating. It’s a heavily social game, more so than any other game I’ve played, and not being able to talk in a social game is fatal to the experience.

Then I guess players will just have to behave according to the terms they agreed to when they joined the game wont they. Its not rocket science.

[anon88262317]

So, basically, even though WOW: Classic does not have ranked play, and therefore would have no “automated ban”, you’d rather stick to that claim.

I’ll just disagree with your entire premise and look forward to the “destroyed” WOW: Classic full of players who don’t do their best to disrupt other players.

Nah. close though.

My point is Classic will have an automated reporting/discipline system, as evidenced by the automated reporting/discipline systems currently in place in other Blizzard games, as well as recent news that Blizzard is downsizing and support staff are being let go, leading to further reliance on automation, and that this automated system will lead to bans for behavior that is otherwise not against the rules.

[Banjaa-deathwing]

Except your examples were not wrongfully banned nor were they even banned. A Silence is not a ban. It is an action that prevents players from chatting for X amount of time. PVP will not result in action against you.

I’ll update my OP since there are many players here who haven’t actually played HOTS and dont know that a silence is a ban from ranked play.

There’s still like 4 or 5 other modes where you can still play - it’s not a ban at all.

[Hadrimmdar-silvermoon (Hadrimmdar)]

doubling down on this eh. The only automated system is squelching.

[Banjaa-deathwing]

and that this automated system will lead to bans for behavior that is otherwise not against the rules.

0 proof of this, still.

[Twidget-wyrmrest-accord (Twidget)]

Blizzard is downsizing and support staff are being let go, leading to further reliance on automation, and that this automated system will lead to bans for behavior that is otherwise not against the rules.

Again, conspiracy theories. Employees in the BlizzEU region (Not North America), specifically Cork, Ireland… were given the chance to cash out with a sweet bonus and they took it.

There has been no downsizing (other than 2 CFO’s… hahaha) to speak of in the NA region.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

My point is Classic will have an automated reporting/discipline system

Um, not really…

To report, you need to right click, kind of hard to AUTOmate that. As for the discipline, the only thing that is automated is the squelch, and you gotta piss off a lot of people to have that happen. And still a GM reviews it.

[anon88262317]

You show me a screenshot of a GM not overturning the silence…where the proof that it was overturned by Blizzard? You are struggling brah…

Your request isn’t relevant to my point, which is that the automated system will wrongfully ban and that GMs wont overturn, which was proven by the provided screenshot. You can search for the twitch clip of him logging back in if you like.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

Your request isn’t relevant to my point

Yes it is. You made the claim Blizzard overturned it, so where is it?

only had the ban removed later mysteriously (most likely due to other Blizzard employees watching the stream and sending word.)

You said that right? Where’s the proof?

[Twidget-wyrmrest-accord (Twidget)]

the automated system will wrongfully ban and that GMs wont overturn, which was proven by the provided screenshot. You can search for the twitch clip of him logging back in if you like.

Silences are all reviewed by a GM, if rules were broken the Silence is applied. if rules were not broken then no SIlence is applied. There is nothing automated about it. Your pal Grubby broke the rules. Simple as that.

[Thundertotem-blackwater-raiders (Thundertotem)]

Just flag the post as trolling and quit feeding the OP.

[Twidget-wyrmrest-accord (Twidget)]

Just flag the post as trolling and quit feeding the OP.

Yeah thats becoming more obvious with every post.

[Switzy-stormreaver (Switzy)]

Being silenced in Classic WoW is just as debilitating. It’s a heavily social game, more so than any other game I’ve played, and not being able to talk in a social game is fatal to the experience.

Then I guess players will just have to behave according to the terms they agreed to when they joined the game wont they. Its not rocket science.

That’s not the problem here. The problem is that the silencing isn’t done by an impartial human who is familiar with Blizzard’s ToS. The silences are handed out instead by mob rule; by groups of people who don’t know (or don’t care) about what speech or behavior deserves to be punished.

People here have far more faith in random people on the internet, because that’s who you’re trusting to wield the GM power of muting others. I certainly don’t.