Why is it Unholys main damage source is auto attacks when we have one of the more slightly complicated rotations? here is my log from today on heroic Mother
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cyk1vWQcDrHFZnmg#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=4
It's very obvious why we suck in PvE and PvP, If a mob or player moves away or gets kited we loss out on our top damage right?
Time to let the DK go.
Or Suffer Well.
No changes will be made.
Or Suffer Well.
No changes will be made.
We know. Corporate either doesn't care or doesn't have the skill to fix it.
10/30/2018 07:39 PMPosted by ThorrickWe know. Corporate either doesn't care or doesn't have the skill to fix it.
10/30/2018 07:20 PMPosted by MisrenNo changes will be made.
Unholy was specifically mentioned for special attention. PTR is still on going. Calm down, drama queens.
Hey we actually agree on something for once!10/30/2018 08:15 PMPosted by Manarri10/30/2018 07:39 PMPosted by ThorrickWe know. Corporate either doesn't care or doesn't have the skill to fix it.10/30/2018 07:20 PMPosted by MisrenNo changes will be made.
Unholy was specifically mentioned for special attention. PTR is still on going. Calm down, drama queens.
Every unholy ability is undertuned, especialy the ST ones. Its the main complain on DK feedback thread that ST is too low.
How long has the PTR been up IRT 8.1? The only attention DKs have gotten were related to PvP. Nothing on PvE talents or combat.
Our issues are rune regeneration and how bad Haste negatively affects our class the greatest.
8.1 is around the corner and there has been no mentioning on any fixes to our PvE segment.
#Sufferwell
Our issues are rune regeneration and how bad Haste negatively affects our class the greatest.
8.1 is around the corner and there has been no mentioning on any fixes to our PvE segment.
#Sufferwell
10/30/2018 08:15 PMPosted by ManarriUnholy was specifically mentioned for special attention.
For pvp. We haven't seen *#!*!##! for pve meanwhile UDK is worse than Spriest and the development team continues to wet nurse that spec's player base with tuning while by and large ignoring everyone else. People are pissed at this point, best to let them have it.
The pve adjustments are coming in the form of AOE nerfs to havoc and arms. Which aren't going to help Unholy in any way.
OP the answer is incompetence and bias in tuning. These !@#$s actually think Unholy is 'in a good spot.'
10/30/2018 05:25 PMPosted by SormorneWhy is it Unholys main damage source is auto attacks when we have one of the more slightly complicated rotations? here is my log from today on heroic Mother
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cyk1vWQcDrHFZnmg#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=4
It's very obvious why we suck in PvE and PvP, If a mob or player moves away or gets kited we loss out on our top damage right?
To answer your question, "Melee" takes pet damage into account as well. That's why it's such a primary source of damage.
Its literally always a male Draenei saying we'll be fine; in the alpha,beta,prepatch,the first patch, now here we are.10/30/2018 08:15 PMPosted by Manarri10/30/2018 07:39 PMPosted by ThorrickWe know. Corporate either doesn't care or doesn't have the skill to fix it.10/30/2018 07:20 PMPosted by MisrenNo changes will be made.
Unholy was specifically mentioned for special attention. PTR is still on going. Calm down, drama queens.
10/31/2018 06:41 AMPosted by Elixx10/30/2018 05:25 PMPosted by SormorneWhy is it Unholys main damage source is auto attacks when we have one of the more slightly complicated rotations? here is my log from today on heroic Mother
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cyk1vWQcDrHFZnmg#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=4
It's very obvious why we suck in PvE and PvP, If a mob or player moves away or gets kited we loss out on our top damage right?
To answer your question, "Melee" takes pet damage into account as well. That's why it's such a primary source of damage.
Still kinda sucks that so much of unholy dmg can be done while being afk.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20769618067#post-1
Have the same discussion going on the Class design forum. Go support so these devs know this is unacceptable.
Have the same discussion going on the Class design forum. Go support so these devs know this is unacceptable.
10/31/2018 08:13 AMPosted by BifléStill kinda sucks that so much of unholy dmg can be done while being afk.
I'm starting to wonder if that's why damage is tuned so poorly. The thing that worries me; it's a really hand held delivery system for damage which ties into the quote above. The only 'mistake' you can really make is using resources inefficiently, and maintaining disease uptime,because our globals are really not important or impactful to our damage in any other way.
It isn't a case of easy to pick up, hard to master. At all. Easy to pick up, but nothing much to 'master' besides keeping your dot up, making sure you don't use SS when you don't have a wound on target, not over capping runic, making sure you don't FeS after 4 wounds.
Starting to think we're the BM of melee now.
Buff single target damage. Simple. Buff our armor. Simple. Nothing less. Nothing more. We need a big single target buff, and a 15% buff to armor.
10/30/2018 08:15 PMPosted by ManarriUnholy was specifically mentioned for special attention. PTR is still on going. Calm down, drama queens.
Ahh, yes. Please excuse them for being bitter for not wanting to repeat legion, where unholy was absolute, T-total, garbage up until 7.2.5. All that time, there was the same boot-licking "they'll fix it in the next patch, the PTR's not over, guys", and you know what happened? Jack diddly squat. The fact that they waited until mid nighthold to buff Virulent plague by 57% showed that unholy was not even on Blizzard's mind until much later. Even with that, and the buffs to CS and pet mastery scaling, it was still utter trash in all areas of the game until a cumulative 50% Death Coil buff, Apoc using 6 wounds, and DA lasting 5 more seconds.
I'm not willing to wait 2/3's of an expansion before the spec's fixed. Not again.
10/31/2018 07:35 PMPosted by Lahgtah10/30/2018 08:15 PMPosted by ManarriUnholy was specifically mentioned for special attention. PTR is still on going. Calm down, drama queens.
Ahh, yes. Please excuse them for being bitter for not wanting to repeat legion, where unholy was absolute, T-total, garbage up until 7.2.5. All that time, there was the same boot-licking "they'll fix it in the next patch, the PTR's not over, guys", and you know what happened? Jack diddly squat. The fact that they waited until mid nighthold to buff Virulent plague by 57% showed that unholy was not even on Blizzard's mind until much later. Even with that, and the buffs to CS and pet mastery scaling, it was still utter trash in all areas of the game until a cumulative 50% Death Coil buff, Apoc using 6 wounds, and DA lasting 5 more seconds.
I'm not willing to wait 2/3's of an expansion before the spec's fixed. Not again.
I get that. I'm not saying do nothing. I'm only saying don't act like the sky is falling yet when they very openly said the spec was getting attention. Legion didn't have that for all those patches leading into Nighthold. This PTR cycle we do. As much as they screw up, I have a hard time believing that they'll let the spec slip by without any changes after saying there would be some.
If that does happen, then raise hell. It'll be well deserved at that point. But give them the cycle to do something when they said they would.
I played with a rogue the other day, his melee damage came in 4th. Our melee is our top damage spell.
I believe it is to prevent Obliterate to under scaling from stats. Obliterate scaling is bad, none of the stats scale with it except versatility which all skills will scale from it at a high cost stats.
I believe it is to prevent Obliterate to under scaling from stats. Obliterate scaling is bad, none of the stats scale with it except versatility which all skills will scale from it at a high cost stats.