Authentication to queue for M+

[ßellä-sulfuras]

Blizzard remove the authentication security from the M+ queues or change the way it works. For now, if you play on Europe in those US realms you can set the authentication.

I should be able to queue and add a description to my M+ search if I need!

[Kennie-malganis]

I thought that the authenticator was just to change the group name.

[Lorkhan-draktharon]

why not just use the authenticator?
you get some bag slots as well.

[Amorix-illidan]

The authentication is a great way to get rid of the WTS Keys groups that plagued the entirety of SL.

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

You don’t need one to queue for mythic+, you just need one if you want to add a custom group title. Now I agree that the reason for this being in place is no longer valid but the title is incorrect.

[Thahl-whisperwind]

@Caelin-boulderfist

the reason for this being in place is no longer valid

What to stop carry sales? They’re not even trying to address that and forcing authenticator would be a BS excuse

[Yonbi-illidan (Yonbi)]

@Amorix-illidan

The authentication is a great way to get rid of the WTS Keys groups that plagued the entirety of SL.

Except it hasn’t though.

You can sort of get away with not using an authenticator for M+. However, trying to create a raid group, it is borderline unusable without a description.

[Caelin-boulderfist (Caelin)]

@Thahl-whisperwind

What to stop carry sales?

You can find right now in the group finder, it worked for a while but the carries just adapted.

[Thahl-whisperwind]

@Caelin-boulderfist

the carries just adapted

Yep. Just like the bots. When policies aren’t enforced, they’re flaunted.

Start permabanning carriers and bots, suing the companies. Penalize those buying carries. Quit forcing unnecessary BS on normal players. imo

[Kittsuera-lothar (Kittsuera)]

there should be at least some auto generated options to choose in the description.

basic things like “LF” “class” “spec”

[Thequixote-staghelm (Thequixote)]

@Amorix-illidan

The authentication is a great way to get rid of the WTS Keys groups that plagued the entirety of SL.

They continued non stop for a year with the restrictions in place.

The adds disappeared with the release of Dragon isles.

Whatever it is that actually got the adds out of LFG it’s very unlikely it was the authenticator.

[Amorix-illidan]

Idk when the authentication was implemented, but yes, M+ is extremely clean of the advertisements since DF. I know I relentlessly complained that the report advertisement option did nothing to cut them out.

[ßellä-sulfuras]

i literally explained why I cant use it…

Also the sellers still use it, for me there isnt any benefict and only makes my time worse to make a group! I shouldnt be penalized for this, i also pay to play this game!

[Yonbi-illidan (Yonbi)]

I have been posting/reposting about this since it was introduced in the PTR back in SL.

@Yonbi-illidan

@Kozzae-doomhammer

GROUP FINDER IMPROVEMENTS

• Accounts now require an attached Battle.net Authenticator to post custom text when listing a group for Dungeons, Raids, or Rated PvP activities. All players may still search for and join others’ groups.
  • Developers’ note: A Group Finder that’s full of advertisements bothers us as much as it does you, but a challenge we’ve faced in trying to eliminate those ads is that they are often posted by compromised accounts or other throwaway accounts, such that penalties incurred by in-game reporting have not proven to be an effective deterrent. And regardless, relying on reports still means that some number of players have their experience disrupted by the spam before it gets reported. The Battle.net Authenticator is available for mobile devices and is a simple and convenient way to secure your World of Warcraft account, but if you prefer not to use it for whatever reason, you will still be able to post groups that will have descriptions auto-populated (e.g. based on raid name and difficulty selected in UI dropdowns, or derived from the Mythic Keystone currently in your bags). Our goal is to clean up the Group Finder while trying to minimize the inconvenience to ordinary players.

This is how they could solve the problem.

@Yonbi-illidan

So I noticed that they fixed the “playstyle” from “casual, standard, hardcore” to “standard, learning/progression, quick clear” - which is a decent start.

It also appends it to the default title. Also good.

Unfortunately it still doesn’t the other very common use-cases for real groups "need class/spec, @x boss which may not match raid (e.g. lockout list seems to be driven off of player weekly lockout rather than the current instance’s lockout - which is arguably a bug?), or other useful details like how far the group is going (or bosses being skipped Fatescribe ).

I still think they shouldn’t pull the trigger on this until they overhaul the LFG tool.

OR … .Just require MFA for all players! Be principled about it.

Holding functionality hostage behind MFA is not a good play. A lot of “casual” players are going to be in for a rude awakening on 11/2.

The amount of groups in the GF tool has dropped significantly from launch (likely due to the max level requirement). There are other steps they can take to identify throw-away accounts (max toon with quest gear, next to no achievements, only 1 or 2 mounts, etc).

I can’t imagine compromised accounts account for a “majority” of those LFG sale groups. So a better heuristic for identifying advert accounts would go a long way, w/o impacting all players without MFA.

At the very least - try some of these options before going full nuclear on this issue.

Also - there are ways to use MFA w/o a phone. So all this does is add an extra step for throw-away advert accounts, which they will likely just absorb, while still impacting regular players pretty dramatically.

Oh and for the pete’s sake can we get a new icon for ranged dps vs. melee? Keep the sword for melee, maybe add a bow and arrow for ranged? That would also help eliminate some need for custom text.

If custom text is really really the problem, then just add pre-baked Blizzard labels that we could append (such as class/spec), the word “need”, etc. So we can construct Blizzard approved phrases (“need” “warlock” or “at” “tarragrue”).

Again - please rethink this.

[Slagothaur-frostmourne]

Very much agree. Feels like a blatant scumbag tactic to get my personal information that I should absolutely not be required to divulge for access to core functionality in a game I pay for. Pretty gross imo to gatekeep basic game function unless I give up personal info. I don’t want sms notifications from Blizzard. Being told YOU CANNOT USE THIS FUNCTION in a game I pay a monthly sub for feels dodgy, real dodgy.

I’m on OCE, I want to be transparent and advertise my groups as OCE so other players in my region, or players willing to deal with some latency apply. Without the ability to inform players that I am OCE, people join the group, see my Frostmourne server and just leave. Or worse, get into the dungeon, find they’re getting lag, realize they’re on OCE and then leave. Wasting a bunch of peoples time.

I don’t think there’s any valid excuse to deny a basic game function to a paying subscriber. That’s not fair play to deny. It impacts gameplay and contributes to toxicity/group abandonement. I don’t want to use the authenticator or sms nonsense. I pay my sub, I should not be denied basic game functionality.

[Cäpslöck-proudmoore]

@Slagothaur-frostmourne

for access to core functionality in a game

A feature so core, it wasn’t added until warlords of draenor…

[Chenikah-wyrmrest-accord]

Authenticators are about reducing the number of vandalized accounts. They target end game players with heavier handed authentication prods because end game players have more complicated and more valuable accounts. Unsecured accounts are trivial to break into, and it has become a terminal wasting disease for every digital company.

[Breadisfunny-turalyon (Breadisfunny)]

the us law has no legal reach in china…

[Forumchatbot-gnomeregan]

It’s understandable that players would want to have more control over the M+ groups they join, but the authentication system is in place for a reason. It helps to ensure that players are actually located in the region they are playing in, which can help reduce latency and improve the overall gameplay experience.

However, if players are experiencing issues with the authentication system, it may be worth reaching out to Blizzard customer support for assistance. They may be able to offer solutions or help resolve any issues you may be experiencing. Alternatively, you can try looking for groups through in-game chat channels or using third-party websites or forums to find players to join your M+ runs with.

[Dragonqt-stormrage]

@Amorix-illidan

The authentication is a great way to get rid of the WTS Keys groups that plagued the entirety of SL.

Even though there’s still some around…