No, I’m saying the functionality is simpler. Every part. Listing is simpler. Buying is simpler. Figuring out pricing for both buying and selling is simpler. Not having to undercut to achieve the same function is nearly the same, but simpler. However, despite it all being simpler, the actual function of it, for the sake of how selling stuff works mechanically, is so close to exactly the same that it doesn’t matter that it’s simpler.
Nothing about the system was better before. Nothing. Not the menu (UI) not the function, nothing. This is superior for literally any person using the auction house, with the exception of those whose brains are so slow, that any minor change takes them 6 months to stop being confused about. AND your lack of understanding that it is better, even for you personally, doesn’t change that.
But, I’m done. I’ve said it all, no one has made even one single counter point, not one, not even kinda, so I’m moving on from this thread.
Or you’re kinda obtus to other people that did. Stuck in your own thinking. Because you think something is better for the only reason that at this point you “feel” that the old system was worse. You haven’t prove that the new system is better.
Listing/buying is all menus. That were carried before by addons, so it doesn’t matter and they can still be carried by addons.
Figuring price is still a thing, there can be 1 stack of an item 20 gold lower than you should sell yours.
If you don’t keep updating to be the freshest at the same price you’re basicly just giving gold to your compeitition by letting them not have to undercut.
There’s nothing simplier about that.
And you haven’t proved anything that wasn’t just a “you” feeling. You just keep saying that it is because you say so.
At this point,
I’m loving the new AH, I hated it the first few days but after I learned how it was, I’ve been selling much more items.
There is no need to undercut, repost items every 2 hours, buy those extreme undercuts that some do to sell fast, and sell it at your price.
In effect, it functions the same as before. The most recent lister of an item gets their item sold first - they just now have the option of gaining (cheapest) precedence by listing for the same price instead of 1 copper (or more) less.
But it’s not the same as before when you just say after what’s the difference.
Not having to undercut is a big difference.
It means someone can just refresh the same price if he’s online more.
As before he would have to fight other people undercutting him by selling lower.
Which means that buyers are losing, and sellers have to go to the ah more often to refresh. The “real price” was acquired by people not wanting to undercut too much. While right now it’s an inflated price because you don’t have to, you just have to sell the same price as everyone as long as you’re the latest refresh.
Perhaps you should just move on from the forums? It’s obvious you’re an unreasonable human being by how inflammatory and degrading you’re being. There’s a way to talk without being a huge jerk.
I’m not following your point. Whether precedence is gained through being the latest to list an item at the same price or by a copper or more cheaper has the same effect. You can still undercut a seller by whatever amount you like if gaining precedence by just being the latest lister at the same price is not to your liking.
Anyway, as a low volume (casual) seller I have found it much harder to sell since the new AH came out. It’s probably because over the selected time range, say 12 hours, all you need is a person or more to come along and undercut by a silver and the sale(s) will go to them.
Prior to the new AH I think buyers would choose my stuff because I always sold small stacks in integer amounts.
You can still undercut, you just “don’t have to” anymore to be the best seller. That’s the thing. That’s the big difference. Moreover, if you keep fighting that copper war then someone will do a silver, then it’s a gold then it starts dropping.
Not a functional difference. Whether one goes back and forth with another seller or sellers by gaining precedence by listing at 1 copper less each round or by listing at the same price more recently than the other each round has the same effect. The possibility of it escalating to silver or gold undercuts, rather than copper, is a variant that could happen in either the previous or the current AH. not particular to
I explain how there’s a functional difference.
You say “no”.
Ok
And saying the same thing while it doesn’t work like that. if they keep going at it the copper will become silver then gold. And all that money the buyer would save, all that competition making the price more right.
Bottom line is that the latest seller to list can gain precedence, presuming that buyers want the lowest price.
If you think that gaining precedence by equaling prices rather than lowering by a copper will lead to more drastic price lowering than before, then we will have to just disagree.
I think that buyers get worse deals because sellers don’t have to undercut each others. That’s the main difference. That I posted this idea ring true, moreover since the rework of the ah the prices have gone up in my server by a decent marging even on other realms I think.
Hmm. Maybe with the lowest priced items I could see that, but at least with items that cost, say, at least a 100 gold, I don’t think the several coppers difference every round is going to lead to meaningful differences for buyers versus how it was before (again, I’m not buying that the current system will lead to undercut escalation more or less than the previous system)
It must also be caused because if you’re selling at the same price you have some hope of selling it, while not knowing where you are in the queue. I ahve seen thousands of items at the same price. People don’t understand and don’t like to use this new system. I think there’s also that take to ponder.
The AH is working fine. The REAL problem is that since the announcement of the Brutosaur going to the BMAH at the end of BfA…the AH is flooded with noob sellers putting things up for noob prices.
If you have cash and patience it should pay off if you arbitrage the markets within the AH. But it will take some time, namely i don’t expect most of the noobs to move off until Shadowlands comes.
Sellers can see where they are in the precedence price queue and even see who the other sellers are who have precedence before them (which I am not fond of). It just feels more frustrating when others get precedence at the same price point - but these are the same sellers who would otherwise just undercut you for a copper (or more) and gain precedence anyway.
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