Why don’t you make friends with the non-toxic people in game? What is preventing you from talking to other players so you no longer have to pug with strangers?
If you make friends, the game becomes much better.
Seriously. All the major crying points are remedied if you play with like-minded people. There’s obviously a ton of you who feel the same way. Why aren’t you grouping up? Why do you insist on spending all this time and energy complaining about a game you continue paying for vs befriending those who feel as you do?
Schedules? You know when I do m+? 7am for an hour before work. I found 5-6 others that had the same schedule. We now run 4x a week. All it took was for me to message someone that said they were looking for others to run at that time.
It didn’t get fixed by complaining on the forums. That’s for sure.
You have to PUG to find people that you might want to make friends with…
Then when you finally make friends, they stop logging in 3-6 months later and you have to start over. Very circular doing something you don’t like doing.
I agree with you. Maybe I’m speaking just for myself but I don’t play consistently enough or distraction free to do what you’re saying. That said maybe the people who are saying these things are casual to a level where they just want good will and friendship from the few pugs they do. Obviously I “could” do what you’re suggesting but if I’m getting up at 4am before work I could be doing better things than raiding, I’d still rather sleep.
People should group up and guild though your right, preaching to the choir there.
I pretty much PuG everything that I do when it comes to group content and do not hate the game because of it.
I don’t actually think pugging is all that bad and have done so for 4 seasons straight. It ain’t the end of the world to fail a run guys. It’s not the end of the world to take a chance on a person and have them come up short.
PuG scene would be immeasurably better if people went for a reframe on their expectations and goals imo.
Both on the high end and on the low end of things.
Eh. You could. I found someone’s message in a discord server. You could reply to the people making “pugs suck” threads and ask. You could post in /2 and /1 when playing saying you’re looking for people.
It doesn’t even have to be a guild. My group formed from 5 people on 5 different servers.
LOL.
I’d also argue that it’s much harder to make new friends in WOW than back in Vanilla/TBC.
We don’t need to group for almost anything out in the world and when we do it’s an auto queue which we drop as soon as we’re done.
Discord moved most of the in game social interactions outside the actual game.
There are no server communities anymore.
Bro you are not wrong at all. Wife and I against the world of delves rn and it’s fantastic.
I’m still going to do my thing with keys eventually. Probably just KSM for season 1. But at the moment I could not be happier with the options I have with her.
I would suggest that most people who play WoW are not that good at making friends. And before you throw rocks at me . . .I am one of those people. I am one of those people who ended up with friends because my eventual friends just started being my friends. Like, a miracle occurred and then I had a friend. The only time I managed to pursue a friendship was when I was enamored of my eventual wife and staged a charm offensive because, well, she is the best person in the world and I put all I had into making her KNOW that. (It worked)
But many of us are shy or socially awkward or have social anxiety. As such, Blizzard really should have brought in social experts a long time ago. Because introverts need help making friends. WoW really needs a sort of dating app for players, lol, but not for dating. For playing the game together. We need a matchmaker feature for friendships so we can find folks who might play the same way.
Hear people mention this all the time. I have no idea what it is. Even in Remix, some guy kept posting about “My group, WOW made easy…” but I guess he just assumed people knew what it is was and left it at that.
This is where I found my friends. You see the same folks enough times, you can start chatting. WME doesn’t allow any sort of recruitment though (anymore).
