Any game with 3+ melee, and that is very often with how many games have fistweaving monks, is just an awful experience. I am very new to warlock and I’m sure with better skill at the class I could make it work, but damn its not very rewarding. Just getting a UA out is hard since half the time I try to fake cast I am interrupted instantly or just get stunned chained right after. Should I just switch to destro/demo and learn the class more or keep trying to make affliction work?
It doesnt get better with destro or demo unfortunately. The mongo melee train doesnt stop.
Keep your curses up, exhaustion and weakness with amplify curse on warriors or ret, Tongues on healer.
Spell reflect can be helpful vs DK. You can pop spell reflect and they cant interrupt you.
The pvp talent essense drain can help as affliction with damage reduction but you lose DPS.
Pvp talent shadow rift can help too, be aware of your port location.
Macro soulburn into your gate and teleport
For instant gates and movement speed after port.
Also macro it into health stone . If you can soulburn healthstone then dark pack you get a decent shield.
Edit. You can macro amplify curse into curse of weakness to stop incoming damage alot quicker.
Sure it does. Soul link, havoc coils, axe tosses, etc…
Affliction relies much more heavily on its partners to set it up to BECOME self sufficient.
Interesting…
yeah aff is rough… You basically run around using every global to press curses and instant damage. Try juking to get precog, then casting some UAs and malefics and hoping no one is spam dispelling your dots so you are unable to ramp anything.
its also just the nature of shuffle… ive been everything from 2100 to 1k on this toon and its just a jolly good time. im not good though, so dont take my word. but itsconstant partners ccing your dots off. hunters dispelling, rets dispelling, healers, etc. it sucks and dot classes are rough in shuffles
The Nerf to UA was very damning, especially when all these dps classes can dispel dots too. Hunters are a nightmare.
Can you not read?
He’s saying Demo and Destro has better tools than Affliction, Axe Tosses being a Demo tool.
And he’s right.
Additionally I think you’re forgetting the fact that being in LOS of a Demo/Destro lock is much more scary than being in LOS with a Affliction Warlock.
If a Warrior sits on a Destro in the open, the Destro could just turn around and pump a Chaos bolt or two into him and he’s as good as dead.
There’s no 1-shot threat from an Affliction Warlock. There’s no down side or threat to tunneling an Affliction lock.
Affliction relies so much more on their partner. When your team comp is RNG, that’s bad design.
Look at the top 100 ladder.
Aff
2475 - 3336
Demo
2916 - 3490
Destro
2946 - 3473
Affliction has a lower peak, and more importantly a significantly lower floor. Why? Because they have a harder time.
Lol. Too funny.
Yeah coupled with how comp dependent and GCD starved it is, im probably not touching afflic in RSS again or at least for a very long time until things like this get looked at
Anyone that willfully enjoys playing afflic in this mode is a masochist and should be kink shamed accordingly
Lol. You havnt played destro lately then?
Not necessarily true. I think affi is actually really good in soloq right now, the PROBLEM is how soloq is structured. Players are 0 or 100, there is no ramp up time, there is no playing to wincons, it’s kill 1 person and move on.
Affi IN THEORY is one of the single best specs in the game for soloq, but players make the spec nearly unplayable due to how players refuse to play good because they want to be mongoloid lizard brained neanderthals
i might be only one who LIKEs playing aff in shuffle
I love it too, its a lot of fun. A siphon life bake into corruption would def help though, or Soulburn: Soul Swap so we can apply all our dots like we could before the nostalgic nerf.
Getting trained as an affliction warlock really sucks right now, especially in such a bursty meta.
youre also playing at 2500 and not hardstuck 1900-2100 where people cc ur dots off constantly big boi.
Yea and up until atleast 2300 u can straight kill the whole team and press w. They cant handle the spread pressure. higher sure its obnoxious but every spec outside of tank is perfectly fine to 2.4. Hell look at my stats. Scaled up i only rock about 22% vers. Im as squishy as one could be and im about to craft a lariat + ring with mast haste on it and have even less.
yep. Soloqueue with 2 warriors.
Stun,<dark pact>,shatter,stun, <trinket>, stun, stun, dead.
How do you survive being trained. I port, gate, pact, run, Drain Life.
The problem is if you cant get away from your port quick enough (warrior will charge you), they SoB and blow you up and you cant port away.
I found that exceptionally frustrating. You offer training?
First global for me is almost always gonna be curse exhaust and amp curse before their burst. I hug pillar like a cheap dancer on pay days. If they dont spear or if im fast enough ill just basic port spear if they still run . Other melee i just port their go at start and stay pillar. if they continue to chase its gate then hopefully grip or rop depending on my healer. Or a vortex or earthgrab etc. By the time they connect again they get my dark pact. And then i port again. By that point they are rotting and cant do much> If they are juked at all during that ill just soul rot triple drain to full hp until deep damp
There’s no point to playing arena for me. It’s just a constant get trained 6 rounds in a row, 100% of the time, always. It’s absolute trash. Every gap opener, they have a closer, and then some. I’ve literally been interrupted, stunned, interrupted, feared, interrupted, stunned, just for them all to come back off cooldown and DR again.
It’s literally the most frustrating experience I’ve ever had in 18 years of playing wow.
Problem with affliction is no one knows how to play with one with these days. There’s so many people who are quick to burst and hope their burst kills someone in one go or healers who cast damage spells instead of keeping the dying affliction warlock up.
If we’re locked out of one spell we’re locked out of everything and we’re consistent sitting ducks. Affliction warlocks need support in order to rank in and too many people are too focused on themselves.
Solo shuffle is a pain for affliction but I refuse to play the other specs. Some games I go 5-1 6-0 when I get teams that know how to play with affliction, then others I go 1-5 2-4 0-6 with warrs and rest who want to focus one player all game.