At what point did blizzard become so

To be honest, the player base demands some pretty batcrap crazy things then throws a tantrum when denied.

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2012 with CRZ. they knew it was buggy but foisted it anyways

It’s all about corporate greed, year over year growth is expected, costs are cut, higher profits are demanded and the devs at the bottom have to stretch the content as far as they can. As disconnected with the community as Ion is, he knows that time gates, recycling content and stupidly tuned grinds aren’t popular, he isn’t an idiot, he just has no choice but to milk the most out of what little content they can put out with the budgets they have been allocated.

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Yeah. You’re right. Making us wait for most of an expansion…and sometimes multiple expansions before they “listen” to players is great way to show they are “listening”

My bad.

If you ran a business, wouldnt your end game be to generate as much cash a possible?

Not if it meant running my name into the ground and upsetting my best customers. There’s reasonable amounts of profit, and then there’s strip mining with no regards for the damage you’re doing.

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They used to a lot. There used to even be blues here on the forums who would post and chat with us on the regular. GMs would even randomly come in game or come in chat. They dont do that anymore. All that stopped as soon as the Activision merger began right around mid Wrath.

unironically 100% correct.

Ask yourself this; would you communicate with some one who was always mad about something?
If your friend you hung out with everyday, always had something to say about anything, it would get annoying wouldnt it?

Oh please, lets not even try and pretend like the devs stopped communicating with us because we were always mad, people are always mad and have become increasingly hostile towards Blizzard because there has been years and years of issues being completely ignored.

Blizzard only listens to us when they have a financial reason to do so, lets use the flying debacle as an example, they had zero interest in our feedback on the topic, they were right and we were wrong, they wanted to go down that path and be damned what we thought on the topic. The player base revolts and start cancelling their subscriptions in record numbers and Ion does a 180, he didn’t do that because he listened to us, he did it because his unpopular choice was going to come at too high of a cost to profits lol

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As would any business owner lmao

One persistent complaint for the 15 years I’ve been playing has been the high cost of consumables in WoW and the capture of the AH by a few players. By consolidating the commodities AH causing everything from feasts to flasks to be affordable by everyone they’ve made every person’s gold they have and routinely get much more valuable.

This has directly reduced their revenue because people can earn more than enough gold in game from normal activities and don’t need tokens as much

If Blizz is solely motivated by money, why would they do this? why would they keep the sub fee the same for 17 years when they could have increased it by 25c every year, which would have netted them millions of dollars in extra revenue by now?

Pretty sure something like Slime Cat in LFR wouldn’t be an unreasonable request.

But Blizzard doesn’t seem to care.

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on the contrary, i’m glad they decided to gate slimecat behind Normals only, to disincentivise autoqueue content and to incentivise more social group activities. Should do it every tier.

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First as much as I’d like to just pile on the displeasure to blizzard, I think players need to realize that a business is still a business. There’s this lazy attitude that a business should listen to it’s customers to succeed. That’s easy to say and then do the proverbial mic drop and go about your day but it reality it’s just not that simple.

Not everyone likes things equally. You think make this raid harder is a good idea but there’s others that say it needs nerfing. Just as a simple example so what decision is “listening to the customers “?

In short you can’t run a business with all decisions being what customers say. At the least you’ll run yourself insane and you can’t please everyone.

A business can and should focus on major “themes “ their customers complain about about though, like in this game we complain about blizzard constantly seems against fun. So that’s what they should listen to … stop making fun things feel like chores if a feature is widely praised don’t nerf it stop with “hey guys you can collect these cool things to use but here’s 4 rules on how often you can use it or when you can use it”,…stuff like that,

Also wow had not been a buggy mess since launch that’s ridiculous.

Has there been bugs in every expansion yes but it’s no different that any other massive game.

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What, specifically, is causing you a problem?

Players don’t play WoW to be Raiders like Ion and his cronies.

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Then why do they LFR?

Convivence.

Fun.

Easy and simply things can still be entertaining, like Animal Crossing.

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But isnt LFR, like, kind of, still raiding? so wouldnt you be a , IDK a raider?