I know most people are playing sub for the 1 shots… I’ve mained assassination since I started playing because I always loved the idea of being unique to poisons / bleeds (not so unique since other specs have same stuff basically) but I am determined to make sin work in both pve and pvp again… its rough so far xD
Problem in Arenas: (assuming you dont use gimmick trinket 1 shots)
SIN: has no burst in an incredibly burst heavy meta. Our envenom damage is so lackluster with the loss of envenom buffing azerite traits.
Also passive nerf to assassination with the kyrian covenant vials removing bleeds and poisons. So with assassination being undertuned + kyrian removing your dots + no burst, it feels rough!
I would love to shift damage from some of the passive auto/ bleed damage to a little more envenom pressure. You cant even benefit from deadly poison since you use wound… and deadly poison is like our #2 main damage right now.
If you go to arenamate, you can see there are only about 5 assassination rogues above 1800 in 2s NA… none above 2.1k… and only 2 assass rogues in 3s above 2k NA. By far the least amount of any dps spec currently.
tldr: More envenom damage for burst potential, take away if needed from something else: Take into consideration Kyrian covenant give more specs ways to remove your dots wasting your prep / combos / energy or stalling go’s
The reason there’s no Assassination at higher rating is because Sub is so much better.
Hopefully we get further buffs. Also right now I’ve heard a big problem is just that because of the start of a new season…there’s several walls in trying to climb. Hopefully after some buffs and the ratings balance out it should feel easier to get to the ratings you’re used to getting.
I know something I’ll be trying for is to get gear tuned so I have approx 20% haste and then stack as much mastery as I can without dipping too low on vers. Right now our Mastery is just much, much lower than it was in BfA.
Even before corruption stacking I was able to have 30% crit, 30% haste, and like 50% mastery. Now I’m sitting at about half of that on all stats and only have 5% more versatility to show for it.
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Isn’t there some combo you can do as Sin that has envenom critting for about 20k? Saw Pika doing it the other day, was surprised.
Its using a specific trinket > with specific leggo > and 1 shot at it since you use your vanish (once every 2 min). Thats why I mentioned this in my original post… and sure I COULD go farm this… but I am hoping / banking on the fact that arenas arent meant to be 2 sec 1 shots?
I could be totally wrong and 1 month down the line… We’ll still see it happening and it is the way it is… 
but doesn’t it seem weird that in order to make your finisher worth something, you need a very specific combo… useable once every 2 minutes. It is weird that there such a huge swing from… tickle damage to absolutely OP
I thought it was something else, but yeah, sin definitely needs help.
im just 181 item level but my most frequent crit with envenom is 3023 I see this number and close to it a lot sometimes less in pvp. I have seen as low as under 2k non crit. Too much is loaded into Melee white hit.
I’m not sure on the specifics but I think it involved mark of the master assassin, nightstalker, and vanishing into a 5 point evenom. However it’s been nerfed. The damage bonus of Nightstalker for Sin’s opener was dropped from 50% to 25%. Which drastically hurts the scaling of the envenom.
It was a gimmicky combo anyway.
I think system shock was part of it too, but not sure.
Nah, system shock is pretty weak. I think it was just the big gimmicky envenom with shiv debuff + crit+ nightstalker+ kyrian 7cp effectiveness