I don’t have a lot of experience on rogues, actually just started one this expansion and of all three specs Assassination is by far the most attractive to me from an RPG element and style of play. I enjoy classes that crit often, especially the dot/rot play style. Naturally that on a Meele class was extremely attractive to me but I have been stuck as sub for my leveling experience as I feel the damage of Assassination is abysmal in comparison. I’d like to hear thoughts from experienced rogues, what is your opinions ? Do you think an 8% buff is enough? To me it seems like it’s not enough, can 8% really bring it in line with the other two specs?
Drop what you’re doing right now and just play an Unholy Death Knight. Seriously.
Assassination is very poorly designed at this time, and even with a damage buff, the spec is not cohesive. It doesn’t “work.” Abilities do not interact with each other favorably, it’s more like juggling a mess of buttons that do not synergize with one another. I hope this makes sense. You’ll find a lot more thoughtful posts about it if you scroll around here for awhile.
I love(d) the spec, and I’ve played it when it’s bottom tier as well as when it’s the community go-to. This is the worst it has ever been, and I’m not talking about damage output.
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I can actually agree with this one, if having a bunch of Undead dudes whacking away at your target is acceptable as “Rot” to you. The actual DoT of Unholy is itself pretty weak this expansion. But I too find it a more cohesive spec atm.
Slice and dice really doesn’t help the spec, it just doesn’t fit in. In fact, back before they removed it I think we added s&D automatically because it didn’t fit. The spec is too energy starved to be doing two maintenance buffs.
Unholy is slow though and boring, it’s sad to see Assassination in such a terrible state.
I know. 
I played a little unholy in the first week of SL but my death knight is just collecting dust as I’ve ultimately lost interest in the game itself. Rogue is my main, and since I don’t like sub or outlaw, it’s hard to be motivated to play at all.
That said, even if I personally don’t like sub, it is still a working spec and it will get the job done. If you love the rogue and dagger fantasy, you might give it a shot at 60 and see how you feel about it. It’s a solid spec for what it is. If you can deal with the stupid sound effects and stupid animations and stupid fantasy. And stupid cooldown windows.
Ahem.
Yeah I dunno. I don’t have a problem with Slice and Dice as a concept. It just doesn’t work the way it is right now. So much is needed for the spec to feel good, that it doesn’t simply boil down to 1 or 2 abilities imo.
If I had to main a death knight with how slow it is, with how boring the undead fantasy is I think I’d quit too.
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Like I said new to rogue, but slice and dice is fun to me. What would you rather have ?
i would rather have envenom give you a 6 sec slice n dice and with each envenom you add 6 seconds to a max of 30 sec. just like sub when then dance and shadowstrike they get slice n dice
I feel like the problem with the spec is how mediocre the damage is though in comparison to the other two. You guys really feel like Slice N Dice is such a problem ?
SnD is a problem because instead of dumping combo points onto SnD you can press envenom or refresh your rapture this makes a huge difference. another problem is that you mutilate and garotte up to 5 combo points and press SnD but right after you are energy starved and have to wait like 2 sec to build up energy again to mutilate, this is so inconvenient especially in pvp because of how fast paced it is.
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Do you feel like that would get better with better gear and more haste or is it just a mechanic problem with Assass that gear can’t fix ?
What I am hoping for is that maybe with more haste and towards the middle of the expansion that maybe Assassination can be viable. But if the problem persists in a mechanical failure with the rotation and spec then that would suck.
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i ran assassination at 20% - 23% haste and that didnt fix the problem im still having to wait after using my SnD. the reason why assassination was great in BFA was because the borrowed powers from the azerite traits, essences, legendary cloack etc. that made the spec smooth to play, but with that out of the equation blizzard forgot to add something in its place
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