Note: I got to the very end of this long post hyperlinking proper sources for each of my claims below, and was then met with a message stating I can not post links. I can provide these as needed if my link location descriptions below are not helpful enough.
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Hello,
I’m seeking support on a pretty obscure topic that has become bugged since 9.1.5.
The ability to gain reputation in the WoD Ashran factions (Vol’jin’s Spear and Wrynn’s Vanguard) was removed with the removal of Ashran during BfA prepatch. The BG and its corresponding factions were added back to the game in 8.2. (source: wowpedia wiki website, Ashran)
Blizzard information, forums, and WoWHead have been confused on the status of these reputations after Ashran was added back in 8.2. There is even still a Blizzard support article claiming that it is no longer possible to earn reputation with Vol’jin’s Spear (article ID: 215332, "Can’t Earn Reputation with Vol’Jin’s Spear). However, there is overwhelming evidence that reputation gains have been possible since Ashran’s reintroduction in 8.2. (listed at bottom for clarity)
Specifically, one of the best ways to gain reputation with these factions is to loot PvP racial insignias off of enemy players during an Ashran BG (see: Severed Night Elf Head, Forsaken Brains, etc). These insignias can then be turned into an npc in Ashran for 2.5k rep a piece. There is also the option of turning in artifacts looted within the BG from NPCs for a much smaller amount of reputation.
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-My primary issue, besides the lack of Blizzard clarity on the topic:
As of 9.1.5, the ability to loot these racial pvp insignias has been seemingly removed. I have participated in several Ashran BGs and looted tens and tens of players without seeing a single one of them appear. There has also been none appearing in the chat from allied players looting them, which used to be very prevalent. I do not believe it exists anymore, at the very least from the perspective of a Horde player (maybe it still works properly for Alliance). I looted one of them roughly two weeks ago when playing a game of Ashran during Hallow’s End, and now I am unable to obtain any.
I’m trying to gain reputation with the factions to purchase their respective mounts. When submitting a ticket on the topic, I was told “As it stands, the Vol’jin’s Spear reputation is not available anymore through any means. All forms of reputation gain for that faction have been removed quite a while ago.” I literally gained reputation with Vol’jin’s Spear today and yesterday by turning in a few artifacts during Ashran (the much slower reputation gain method). Obviously it has existed since 8.2, and again the evidence below shows that it has not only been available since 8.2, but specifically the option of looting pvp racial insignias has also been available. This is the key method that is not proving possible since 9.1.5, and as it’s the fastest method, it’s obviously the one I’m interested in correcting.
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-I seek assistance to:
a) reinstate the ability to loot these racial insignias, as I thoroughly believe it is a bug since 9.1.5 that they are no longer showing up in battlegrounds
b) correct the misinformation stating reputation gains are no longer possible with the factions
I have already submitted bug reports regarding this topic plus submitted the ticket I mentioned earlier, but based on my ticket response claiming that the reputation gains are not even possible anymore (when they clearly are) as well as directing me to the forums for further assisstance, this is where I’ve now arrived.
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-Evidence of reputation gains since 8.2, both from racial insignias and artifacts:
Aug. 2021 and Nov. 2020 comments, WoWHead Vol’jin’s Spear Faction Page:
“I was just looking up this title and as of 9.1 Shadowlands, you can get the rep from queueing up to Ashran and the reputation is under “Horde Forces”, just above The Steamwheedle Cartel”, “looting and turning in racial tokens from killing players gives 2500 rep per turn in”
Oct. 2020 comments, Blizzard forums, post by “Voidarcane” titled “So How Close Are You To 100 Exalted Reps?”:
“I Just exalted Wrynns recently, it is done through Ashran PvP”, “It’s actually very easy to do as well, make sure you click on the corpses of your enemies and loot. They sometimes drop an item to hand in for large rep.”
Apr. 2021 comments, WoWHead Severed Night Elf Head Page, stating where the insignia location turn in is:
“He is almost right next to kalgan at the very top. Kalgan has a blue question mark above his head. The guy you’re looking for is 5 to the right or the first one as soon as you walk in that area to you’re right.”
May 2020 comments, WoWHead Breezestrider Stallion mount Page:
"GETTING REP POST-BFA
With this faction/Ashran being re-introduced - and with a mount at exalted, you might be wondering “How hard is this grind/what’s actually involved these days?”
Basically - it’s pretty quick!
You have 2 options -
Loot dead player corpses for a ~25% chance to loot a blue hand-in items. Each of these items you loot is worth a WHOPPING 2,500 reputation, ~80g, and 25 conquest points. There’s no limit to how many you can hold in your bags or loot each bg.
You can also grind the PvE mobs for artifact hand-ins but they are worth only ~7 rep each."