Once upon a time, BGs mostly used to average out at about a 50/50 win/lose ratio. Sure, sometimes you had good or bad streaks of luck, but overall it was within 10% of 50/50.
I created this particular toon (my mage) a few weeks into Dragonflight. Thus far, it’s been 2 wins to 12 losses. 87% losses. Is that how Ashran is supposed to work?!?
It’s pretty much rinse and repeat every match. Horde wins at RoC. They grab fragments, books, and so forth from there. Alliance goes and gets the Ogre cause what else are they going to do? They take ogre almost up to the Horde base which is around the time that Horde gets Kronos going.
Horde stomps their way back down the road to the Alliance base, their healers doing a great job of keeping Kronos healed along the way. They kill off our mage if they haven’t already done it earlier and then just pick off Alliance until the kills run out.
I really don’t mind losing to a well fought fight. But losing a vast majority of the time, well, it just plain sucks.
I don’t have any answers as to what should or shouldn’t be “fixed” but it gets so you don’t even want to queue into “epic” battlegrounds. (have similar issues with IoC btw.)
This is my experience in my battlegroup. Perhaps some horde are having the same experience in their battlegroup as I am in mine.
What’s been your experience in Dragonflight’s version of Ashran?
Ashran Wins & Losses
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Alliance has been losing Epic BGs a lot lately because no one goes into them looking to win anymore. They go into them with their low geared alts in order to get honor. Nobody cares about winning, they’re only there for honor and nothing else. Nobody has told these fools to just level from 66-70 through BGs.
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You should join my premade community, Shadows of Death.
We use a lot of strategies that anyone can learn and use in their own matches.
We kill Volrath almost every game.
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My experience has been the opposite of yours.
Alliance always wins in ashran. SO yeah
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Since I didn’t run Ashran on my 70s in WoD and not epics until this expansion my ashran totals are all for this expansion but I haven’t run many on my alliance hunter who is 0-2 and I think I ran 1 61-69 and 1 post 70. On my alliance prevoker I have a 40% win with around 15 games post 70 and on my horde hpal I am 70% in 10 games mostly 61-69.
The less powerful faction generally does better in lower levels in my experience. My worst is IoC where I have around the same win rate as your Ashran. I hate that place. I have seen some power shift in epics in general, you’re mostly better doing regulars as alliance though I’m basing that on healing experience. It seems to follow on my MM, but I still double queue each so I can get some conq from the weekly.
Not saying your concern isn’t valid, but 14 is a small sample size…
Kinda hard to project the whole faction’s win rate off of that.
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Relatively yeah, but I don’t see it changing much in the near future. I do hold out hope that it’ll get better.
I’ve had nearly the same experience in IoC, but I’ve started to see a slight shift there. Not much of one but a little bit. For a long time, Alliance’s strat in there was to get the glaives and knock down the horde gate fast. This used to work really well once upon a time. However, trying to defend the glaives now are like trying to defend a piece of tissue paper from a thunderstorm. Three or four hits and they’re down.
Alliance IoC is starting–just a little bit–to shift towards hangar and the workshop. Maybe it’ll get better?
I think mostly I’m just kind of venting my frustration. 
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If you lose at ROC don’t waste your time going straight to ogre. The losing team needs to start collecting frags and buffs around the map. Then summon tree and regroup around it for your best chance at a comeback.
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Yeah we say going ogre is admitting defeat.
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FYI, battlegroups haven’t been a thing for years now. Queues are region wide.
Anyway, I don’t know what your personal schedule is…but if you’re Alliance wanting to play epics as a solo queuer, then your best shot is to play by daytime. Primetime evening is nothing but Horde premades.
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I alternate matches on both sides until I get a win on both of my druids. Then I just queue if I’m bored since 25 conquest isn’t really worth the time.
Horde premades usually start about 8-9 pm central time and go back-to-back until midnight or later. They usually only have 3-4 groups so there’s room for solo queues in pretty much every one. Evening is a good time to solo-queue Horde. Last night I solo-queued Horde and won every match and that’s typical.
Alliance premades run pretty much all day. Daytime Alliance premades are small so there’s room for solo Alliance and Mercs. So daytime is a good time to solo-queue Alliance or Merc. Evening is terrible to solo-queue Alliance. The evening Alliance premades are huge so they pop the whole raid. That leaves solo-queues to face Horde premades all night.
Every blue moon premades face each other and those are usually great matches to be in. But most evening matches are just premades slaughtering solo-queues.
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Just checked one toon: near 70% trashran win rate for the season.
That would be ideal but in randoms, most pugs don’t listen either side. Lose RoC and watch people lose their s***
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I’ve been impressed with the general game skill since I’ve been back, random people execute complicated plans and I don’t have to babysit which is good because my eyesight is going and I have trouble keeping up until I’m in the GY with anything more than INC DR.
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Is it Horde? Couldn’t find it on my Ally toon
That’s because you can just desert from obvious losses. If you don’t need the honor and the loss is going to take over 15 minutes then you would be in another match before this one ends.
I like Ashran. I understand it and all the subtle things that are going on. All you need is a few players who know what they’re doing and no game is unwinnable. Not going to give away how we did it, but me and few SAS players won it one time when our team was losing like 150-30. Timing is everything, I laughed and laughed and laughed.
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I think I was lucky on Kushiela who was the alt with 70%, also probably part of a premade and I don’t realize it and not many games. I’ve had that happen when I’m reviewing the boards after the game and realize they probably had their own chat and that’s why no one was talking. I tried looking it up on the alt I ran it to get my title but they show 0 Ashran but I guess that makes sense, I think Raist shows 0 WG and he ran it a couple of times. I made an Alliance alt for the first time with the idea of getting BElf SLayer.
I hadn’t run Ashran since WoD until recently, same with all the epics. I’m still learning why people go into the cave and that sort of thing. It’s a crazy amount of 15+ premades compared to when I last ran them. I’m OK but not great on AV and Ashran but I’m terrible at IoC even knowing the BG. I swore I’d never go back the day I watched the dance of the robots in the keep (12 of them).
Been dying to say, I knew a Frankenberry (sp?) back when I started. Not because I think you’re them just another possible direction for future alts. We all thought it was cool back then but we were a bunch of nerds. Most still are though none of them are still playing.
Nothing but wins when i tell the little pugs what to do.
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