Ashes of Creation. The next WoW killer

Talee-kilrogg · July 20, 2020, 5:49pm

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Wirt-stalagg · July 20, 2020, 5:49pm

Don’t know why you would want the game to fail by pissing off casuals but you do you.

Vanillanoob-fairbanks · July 20, 2020, 5:50pm

Tired of losing? lol

Forums-skeram · July 20, 2020, 5:52pm

Why are you replying to someone and then replying to the same comment a few minutes later?

Dæmonicc-herod · July 20, 2020, 5:52pm

No there not, wow is the winner only.

Dota, LOL, they have WAY More players than wow, like 10x as many each. PVP is where the players are, not PVE. Wow carebearing and causalitying the game is what took 12m subs to 4m.

The reason people leave the PVP mmos, is the devs get greedy and make it Hella pay to win, and PVP players will pay. Or they are terrible at balancing and it just becomes a hot mess. Or if the game is designed as such, super guilds can take over and bleed players off the server. Most PVP mmos have these 3 issues, the servers implode due to super power community’s who snowball to get stronger and stronger.

Palastorm-suramar · July 20, 2020, 5:52pm

WoW II is the one true WoW Killa.

Vanillanoob-fairbanks · July 20, 2020, 5:53pm

Hopefully that comes before 2030

Blammo-windrunner · July 20, 2020, 5:53pm

I’ve never played game with fully open pvp where ganking wasn’t a problem. No system can contain griefers.

Mellin-bleeding-hollow · July 20, 2020, 5:53pm

It’s coming in 2020, actually. WoW 2 is called World of Warcraft: Shadowlands. Sorry.

Tzesh-wyrmrest-accord · July 20, 2020, 5:54pm

Nah. There wasn’t as much people on retail for about a week, and then it went back to normal.

Elynos-sargeras · July 20, 2020, 5:54pm

Ashes looks and sounds very lame. At least graphics are nice I guess

Dæmonicc-herod · July 20, 2020, 5:54pm

Thats BFA 2.0, where they plan to try and bleed even more of the player base, with the same stupid stuff people complain about not being listened to. WOW is actively trying to kill itself.

Dæmonicc-herod · July 20, 2020, 5:55pm

Classic had more subs then Retail for the first 5 months. Blizzard themselves said this in the earnings report.

It may have felt like a couple weeks looking back, but it was months bud.

Sentenza-alexstrasza · July 20, 2020, 5:58pm

I think 10.0 will literally be called World of Warcraft 2 TBH. I know Ion has partially debunked the time skip but I think something like that is still going to happen. They’re moving up too many pieces and setting up too many systems. They’ve updated tons of old models like Quillboars, Murlocs, Naga, Ogres, basically everything “evergreen” or core to the classic wow experience has gotten updates. I feel like those assets are part of their grand plan.

Dæmonicc-herod · July 20, 2020, 6:03pm

I didnt say I wanted the game to fail.

I said it was inevitable. A large community of mostly PVP players left wow, due to wanting a challenging game. They dont want welfare systems and want to be able to 1 shot noobs.

Some stayed and fight for this in WOW, blizzard doesn’t listen and the wheels keep turning.

The companies on the outside, think they can get the niche by making a hard game, where the cuasuals will hate it, and HCs will love it.

That works for a time, the HCs have fun, the Causuals don’t. The Causuals Leave there is less players to harass and so the HCs follow till the next title, where the causuals are ready to be beat on some more for awhile. And the cycle of HC PVP MMOs continues.

Wirt-stalagg · July 20, 2020, 6:03pm

So basically, you’re saying that PvP based mmo’s are destined to fail if they don’t have a pve server.

Bozho-frostmourne · July 20, 2020, 6:04pm

You still don’t understand the intent behind each post. Here’s a hint, context isn’t built merely by the title of the thread.

Vanillanoob-fairbanks · July 20, 2020, 6:05pm

Ashes of Creation is for you!

Ruggi-turalyon · July 20, 2020, 6:06pm

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Oh sorry I was in a groove. Nah you are welcome to think what you want. I can’t tell you what to do with your money but I would suggest caution when it comes to “wow killers” lol, seeing as you know…wow is still here.

Tzesh-wyrmrest-accord · July 20, 2020, 6:06pm

There’s no such thing as Classic having more subs. The subscription pays for both Retail and Classic. I’ve heard about Classic greatly increasing the amount of subs, but that’s not what I was responding to.

I was responding to the OP saying that Classic killed Retail for five months. That has nothing to do with increased subs - it’s about the population of Retail before Classic, and after. In my experience, Retail returned to normal after the first week.