Considering there’s still a requirement to max out an item’s upgrade track, and the fact that getting loot is still mostly a casino dice roll, I would have thought that the Ascendant Voidcore would have been applicable to all armor pieces.
It makes a great capstone for our armor upgrades and elongates our journey to fully “BiS” gear.
Im personally pretty happy to not have to farm currency to upgrade my whole gear again. It would also probably be a bit too strong like turbo boost was to let you upgrade every piece of gear. I also enjoy much more dropping gear than upgrading it and while it’s rng some rng is fun and with bonus rolls shouldnt be too bad.
I’m full glad it’s not another full turbo boost.
Farming 80 shards for that? No thanks.
In my personal opinion the way the gear works now is the just right goldilocks zone. It really hits that sweet spot for me. It feels exactly right.
Looking at this, I would not be surprised if 12.0.7 would extend it to all slots eventually.
It currently seems to drop 2 pieces for each armor type which should not be able to reach 298 according to the current rules, even if it has a different title.
Actually 4 with the neck and the ring.
You people keep pretending gearing is some impossible casino grind when this expansion is probably the most generous WoW has ever been.
Ascendant Voidcore is literally a guaranteed upgrade path. You max your item track, use the Voidcore, and boom - deterministic power increase. That’s the exact opposite of bad RNG design.
And you’re still getting:
Upgrades are raining nonstop. Back then you could raid for weeks and get absolutely nothing. Now players get showered with progression and still act like they’re victims because they aren’t full BiS in two resets.
I think they have the right balance. I am glad they restricted it to weapon/trinket.
I did it for 3 characters is enough for me 
Yea
You sound upset.
The void core is only a guaranteed upgrade path once you’ve played the “casino grind” and finally won. In large part, sure it works across the board - but the bell curve puts a bunch of people having to grind a single dungeon or raid boss tons of times while never getting the item.
The bonus rolls sure helps - but those are gated and there’s still the RNG component to them, much like all of your bullets except maybe 1 where you can buy gear with a currency!
Which is actually the kind of system that would be great to have again. I loved back when they gave us a vendor for raid loot - I just wished they had done the same for M+.
i am not going to be doing mythic raiding for my BiS gear so having my heroic counterparts is good enough for the content i am doing.
having a really good Gaze and Stare for trinkets alone is really nice for a change.
Yes, Effort = Rewards.
You people keep crying about “casino RNG” while ignoring the fact that this expansion already hands out gear at a pace older WoW players would laugh at.
Vaults, crests, crafted gear, delves, bonus rolls, catch-up systems, upgrade tracks, Ascendant Voidcore - Blizzard stacked system on top of system to protect players from bad luck. Gear is raining from the ceiling.
But apparently even that isn’t enough because some players think showing up half-awake for a couple runs a week should guarantee full BiS.
No. The people grinding more keys, more raids, and more content SHOULD progress faster. That’s the entire point of an MMO. Effort creates opportunity. More effort = more loot chances = faster progression.
And the funniest part is that Ascendant Voidcore already IS the anti-RNG system. Once you finally get the item, the upgrade is guaranteed. Blizzard literally gave players deterministic power progression and people still complain because they can’t skip the part where they actually have to play the game.
At this point some of you don’t want progression. You want a login reward simulator where BiS gear gets mailed to you for existing.
You’re missing the point that rng can completely negate effort and a lot of what you said.
I agree, the people running keys and raid and content at tough levels should have and get better gear- I have no issue with that.
But the principle and fairness of that idea goes away when one player runs a dungeon / raid 50 times and can’t get the item they want to drop and another player gets the item on the very first try.
that goes against what you said and exactly why people don’t like rng.
you act like blizzard just layering on more and more rng solved the issue, when it doesn’t at all.
You have more chances now than before with BONUS ROLLS. The Ascendant Voidcore covers all slots unlike on previous catchups where we only have choices on Trinkets and Weapon Slots.
And you dont need M+10 to get Mythic Raid quality items. Just redoing Delves, Prey, Ritual level 4/5 weekly would transform your Heroic Vault gear into Mythic Raid ilevels. Even if you have bad RNG of not getting the BiS, transforming a Heroic Slot into Mythic ilevel is a significant upgrade that you would feel you are progressing every time you farm for each Ascendant Voidcore. Unlike before, Delve players never had a chance to go beyond their Heroic Gear.
lol I’ll probably have 80 shards within 2 weeks. I’ve already upgraded my weapon and 4 trinkets. This is barely a grind lol
Yeah I was thinking the same, and farming the cores seems like plenty of effort when you already have to roll the dice over and over to even get the item you want to drop. At least in the meantime you can upgrade any other pieces you acquire along the way with the cores you farm.
Seems like a great reward for the time and effort put in to acquire the gear, crests, and cores.
Kind of.
If there was something I could advocate more for is to just send it on your current gear especially if it’s myth.
I can see BiS helping on high end progression but most of the general discussion is likely only going to be doing to maybe 12-13s if even that.
I will concede that the Puzzle box if used right will be a big damage increase but it’s possible to run even 2nd, 3rd, 4th best and do fine.
I play Blood DK and the guide for it says ‘Jelly Replicator should be avoided. The pseudo-cheat proc is laughably small at half the power of the random proc.‘
But I threw caution to the wind and used that anyway cause I’m liking the occasional shield and that little shield especially on pulls (where we suffer) actually helps.
That’s also part of the OP asking for them to be applied to all of your gear. Because after you’ve applied it to your existing gear, you’ll be earning more cores while you pull the casino level over and over trying to get the actual items you want. So then the cores can be used for the rest of your gear in the meantime.
honestly I think the gear vendor they used to have was great. Make it drop currency similar to crests, but maybe 1 per run and then have each item with 15 of the currency.
If you run a dungeon 15 tones, I think that’s fair to have earned a single piece that you’re going for.
I think the raid currency was much less per item. It would be so awesome if they bright those back. Best gear system wow has ever had, where you still had to earn the gear and not have it handed to you.
I liked it in DF because I know I won’t be running most raid at Mythic difficulty, is my only way to get Manic Grieftorch at max.
But I accept how it is now too because I wouldn’t get mythic gear this fast (normally).
Yeah nah, miss me with that. I’m glad it’s only particular slots.
Even though I took it somewhat on the easier side I still got 30 of the shards and upgraded my 3 weapons (M Pit 2h Mace, M Vanguards 2h Mace, M Crafted 2h Sword) and 3 trinkets(M Hunger, M Gaze, M Plum) I had for my Arms and Fury specs. Future cores I pickup along the way will go towards the inevitable 2h Axe from L’ura and my prot 1h/shield or if I vault duplicates of my 2h weapons with a really good tertiary.
Really wouldn’t be looking forward to having to had farmed triple the amount to be done with the system.
What do you mean “have to”?
I’m swimming in cores and I’m locked behind the vault for mythic upgrades. At this point I’d GET to.
it’d be a great stepping stone between this heroic to magic gap plus a little extra for the mythic track.