seriously, what is wrong with the vast majority of you? youll sit there and pull mobs repeatedly. over and over and over and over again. all tanks pull too slow for you bums.
but somehow when the tank does decide to pull big because he’s sick of your nonsense, the entire team is stuck tunneled on a single mob they took aggro on because they just HAVE to have high dps every fight. they’ll tell you they “just wanna clear fast” but if they just wanted to clear fast, they’d let the tank do a big pull, and wait for him to gather aggro before blowing their whole rotation.
instead, its the same thing every run. your typical hunter being impatient. your typical rogue instant teleporting on mobs the second you even run in their direction, or the classic “healer druid” who’s so busy dpsing with the other plebs that he doesnt notice the tank is down to 10% hp
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Just think of it as an opportunity to improve your skills.
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I wouldn’t need to improve my skills if training dummies that increased weapon skill were implemented!
/joke
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This is exactly why i quit tanking…then those very same dps whine theres no tanks
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Story as old as time friend. Its why we all quit. The dps just dont understand
The ease of tank threat in wrath probably caused this. Whole diff story in vanilla and they just can’t wrap their heads around it.
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Stop slacking and this won’t be a problem for you.
I agree with most of this, except replace hunters rogues and druids with ret paladins and delete everything after “seriously, what is wrong with the vast majority of you?”
The trash is so pathetic in BFD that it literally doesn’t matter who has aggro as long as you have a healer that is half awake. Everyone can grab a mob and dance. But if not having aggro on large amounts of trash aggravates you, tanking as a pally seems to be better for AoE threat right now. When i have tanked bfd I like when everyone gets involved with pulling, makes my life much easier, just gather them up in a pile.
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I was tanking the raid with a friend and we had a priest moving ahead and pulling stuff to us… we didn’t care, none of this content is hard and that priest made the raid go quicker by pulling them to us.
Why does it bother you that people wanna see things move quickly?
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I never pull, at least not deliberately. So, what if the tank is slow?
Since I’m usually the healer, most tanks are too fast. They have the means to charge ahead to the mobs. But I only have a some feathers and a body and soul talent to keep up. Personally, I wish they would healers attach a leash to the tank, so they drag us a long with them.
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OP, have you considered outputing threat?
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Currently any class can tank these mobs. Trust me as the mobs start to 2-3 shot them and the healers cant keep up, this will stop.
It won’t until parses and DPS meters are removed
So probably never
Ok, there’s two separate issues here:
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The focused DPS pulling one of the mobs off of you. That’ll happen- it’s too much work to skull each priority mob in a 5man and it’s not a big deal. Just learn to let go. Healers are really the only ones that are going to be affected as they have to heal more, and they usually know what’s up.
Just do your best (and use your r1 ES to taunt and save mana) and try not to worry about it. Makes tanking a lot less stressful.
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DPS decided when and how to pull mobs without being asked to-
My rule of thumb is for that is:
First time they pull for me, I’ll treat it like it was an oopsie and tank per normal.
Second time they pull for me, I’ll let them keep the one they tagged specifically while I collect the other mobs.
After that pull I mention in party chat that if the mobs are hitting someone else, I don’t get rage/mana back. (Don’t assign malice to something that can be attributed to ignorance and all that.)
If they pull a third time after that, I let them have all the mobs and whisper the healer to let them die and I’ll pick up after that.
If they do not leave the party after not being rezzed and having to walk back in shame, then I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt.
If they walk back and then pull a 4th time, then that’s it.
First I let them die.
Then I boot them. (If I’m not the party lead and don’t know the party lead, I just let the party lead know that if he pulls for me again, I’m walking out- and they can handle it how they see fit.)
Usually the DPS gets told off by the party or booted. (Much easier replacing a DPS or 4-manning it without them, much less so without a tank.) If I get the boot (which hasn’t happened thus far) then cool, I’ll go make some other party LF1M Tank pretty happy.
For the DPS out there: If the tank is pulling slowly, they’re probably trying to get comfortable with it…let them get comfortable with it. (In my case, I’ll start by pulling slow and seeing where the healer is at then after the first 1-2 pulls, it’s M+ tanking if the healer is up for it.)
If it’s too slow for you and patience isn’t your thing, leave and go find another party. Don’t kill a budding tank.
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Seriously, this. In both BC and WotLK my guilds had a ret pally whose “thing” was dying every trash pull within the first 2 seconds. They just laughed about it. It’s almost like they actually couldn’t help themselves.
There’s even video evidence of this anecdote thanks to the fact our group was the unexpected subject used by the tank to record a YouTube video guide for Shattered Halls. Not sure if I’m allowed to link it here though.
I find the most fun thing about tanking is competing for threat against these dps types / everyone…if healer has enough mana then it’s go time. Can’t expect people to want to go slow…
1 thing that might help is hotkey {skull} so that you can mark 1 enemy as youre running towards it and signal to the dps they should focus that mob 1st, which you will be focusing your initial threat on. Should be good on threat after a few seconds to start tabbing through the rest.
If they die due to attacking the wrong enemy then its on them.
It’s players stuck on retail tempo dude. You can do whatever you want in normal dungeons there and because of RDF they’re not even used to someone saying “stop that”.