I say doubt, but you could be some old ken that I used to beat with green gear when I was in “diapers”. sure sound like it consider you cry about whose in your group. “Those” mechanics came out after wrath, they introduced cata and people stopped playing. Not because of wrath but because so much changed after it (including pre patch of cata). You know nothing of this game and should just stay out of forums. When RDF came out it made people group with their guild more then ever wanna know why? BECAUSE YOU GOT THE GUILD GOLD FOR GOING WITH GUILD MATES. There was a benefit to it. OH DID YOU FORGET THAT? Bet you did. SO KEEP YOUR CLASSIC IDEALISM TO YOURSELF Its not what everyone wants. trust me I play with little addons as possible because I like the OG look. I like the QOL changes they made not all but some.
Both LFR AND WoW Tokens were in the works DURING Wrath when they came out with RDF, they wanted to turn the game casual friendly and they specifcially wanted players to stop interacting with the world so they can AFK all day in town pressing queue like some Call of Duty type lobby game.
RDF 100% led to the death of Wrath.
False, it RUINED interactions within the WoW Community and led to the isolated community that now exists on Retail where virtually no one talks to each other.
It is not YOUR Classic, you are a pro-RDF supporter who LOST.
The Devs sided with us, they just recently removed ALL RDF Achievements from the game putting the final nail in the coffin for ANY sort of RDF movement.
It is OVER, WE won, we will NOT have RDF in OUR Community.
Woohoo! We won brother! Get those RDF retail casuals out of our game!
Also, anyone want to do Ramps? Need like three quests for that place for my new character. I swear Ive been spamming lfg and group finder all day but no luck. I should have chosen one of the 99% alliance locked realms to play on. May have had better luck there.
OK lets break this down slow as you dont know your own timeline. ill put the answer down below so you can see your own demise of how much you dont know wth you are talking about.
LFR came out in 4.3 which was what expansion?
Wow tokens were enabled in what year for all regions?
What did Will Smith say to Chris Rock after slapping him on stage?
while you answer that let me inform you that my guild at the time made an effort to make sure to do its 5 or 10 dungeons a week so we could have that extra gold for our community. Saying something is in the works doesn’t make it part of that expansions problems it counts towards when it came out… idk how you put blame on RDF when it came out a year later in another expansion??? not to mention if that’s what they wanna do is queue in RDF and sit in town that’s THEIR prerogative not yours you selfish child.
Just because it gave people an excuse to not talk to your crying man-child doesn’t make it a bad thing. people were still social they just obviously didn’t care for you it seems.
No Offense to the devs but they have been wrong since wrath now all of a sudden you wanna side with them? you are not the spokesperson for wow community the real RDF community are just happy to be playing wrath again and they will settle for what they can get because that’s when they enjoyed the game.
Answer key:
LFR came out in patch 4.3 “Hour of Twilight” Nov 29, 2011
Wow tokens were enabled in all regions on patch 6.1.2 Apr 7,2015
This comment was satire considering everyone saw the clips. if you haven’t, take a gander.
They only appeased you non RDF people because your diapers were dirty and threatened to unsub while the rest of us are happy to enjoy it how ever they decided to do it because we loved wrath. Some people will never be happy, c’est la vie
LFR was originally planned to release alongside RDF, but they saw how many people were unsubbing that they waited until Cata.
Again, it was already being decided to be put into the game during Wrath when RDF was announced. They waited on this, they had to groom a Community full of AFK players willing to swipe all day long before they put it out which RDF was the start of that beahvior.
IF you don’t like the Classic Devs then YOU can leave, during TBC they sent out MULTIPLE surveys/polls and ALL of them showed that anti-RDF was the MAJORITY.
If you want RDF then you go back to Retail where you belong, WE are HAPPY in this Community with the Classic Dev’s decision and where they wanted to go with the game.
handed you facts and youre talking about feelings, truth of the matter facts don’t care about your feelings. Where I belong? I stopped because of cata and future expansions. if anything you are the issue. you ignore facts and have this sense of entitlement, im guessing you are a boomer’s baby that had everything handed to you at this point. WE DONT LIKE YOU KEN AND WE DONT HAVE TO PLAY WITH YOU, YOU CANT MAKE US. you have FLAWED points in everything you come back with, I am just dumbfounded by how much you ignore facts at this point. Fact of the matter is that if you are not happy with how the game is turning out you should leave otherwise you wouldn’t have worried about it, you see people wanting it and you made this post as a desperate attempt to keep it out. you are not majority I promise you that.
Please stop saying this. This just isn’t true. If you have ‘friends’ you aren’t using trade / lfg channel to get into groups. So just stop with this lie. People don’t spend a bunch of time chatting and nonsense when they are doing dungeons; except when you don’t understand how stuff works.
I’ve leveled a rogue to 80 and 73 on a dk, and the amount of ‘social engagement’ has been - almost none. When killing mobs/quests people just invite or force invite themselves, they rarely say thank you, or they charge you to help you. So spare us the absolute BS about RFD hurting socially.
The tool was in the game in 2009. Period. End of story. Adults don’t want to waste time begging to get into groups. Adults want to utilize their time wisely.
the fact that he got up here to say we don’t want it shows that he is worried about it being reinstated… that’s what I am referring to… and I able share my feedback as well what of it?
I KNOW because actually chatted with people to create a census regarding it to see how people feel. see when you are doing a scientific experiment you follow a procedure to make sure its fact. Unlike the person you are backing he is just shouting the loudest, me on the otherhand know first hand and checked with others. Not to mention the loads of other post regarding how they do want RDF.
They only took out RDF because they thought we knew what we wanted… we didn’t. I even thought it was good at first but I see others like this guy just preventing people from grouping because they need to be fully Sunwell geared for starter dungeons in wrath basic dungeons… lol its just low brow stuff like that, that ruined the social interaction with people. they would rather pug with a random and not talk to people like him. if you cant see it then you are probably the same as him. it’s not that hard to figure out, its obvious when people had the option to not play with him anymore he got upset because they would rather be elsewhere, he has no true social skills.
Why would he be worried? You do realize the devs have like, quadrupled down on this, right? They’ve even offered more reasons since their original one as to why they’re not putting it in. Furthermore, they’re committed to improving the LFG tool and have even replaced RDF achievements and rewards with other things. This is all stuff the OP has brought up already. He doesn’t seem worried at all.
I know you need to convince yourself that he’s shaking in his boots, but I’m not seeing it. All I’m seeing is you try to convince yourself that RDF is inevitable and everyone that is anti-RDF is “scared”.
No one said you aren’t. You’re the one trying to make it seem like he’s sharing his feedback for other reasons outside of just the sake of it. And you have no reason to believe any of that except for your conspiracy theory and false narratives.
Share your census then and share more details about your data collection methods.
Share your procedure.
What about the loads of other posts regarding how they DON’T want RDF?
FALSE NARRATIVES? everything he has said about wow tokens and LFR have been disproven, look it up. I went to other servers and spoke with random people and after stating how RDF would help servers they agreed end of story lol. My point is he has no grounds to show that RDF ruined wow.
Yup. Nothing you’ve said has been substantiated by anything. In fact, most of it makes little sense, so it is a false narrative.
Provide a citation that shows it’s wrong.
And you think this is scientific enough that you’d bring in terms like “scientific experiment” and “procedure”? It isn’t, it’s inaccurate to the larger player base as a whole and it absolutely isn’t large enough a sample size. Try again.
So prove him wrong. You’ve yet to do that. No, making up a fake scientific experiment that you never actually conducted and simply saying “google it”, does not prove him wrong.