So I’ve been looking for a Tank and 1 DPS for Uldaman for about 45 minutes now. There was a 3rd DPS, but they said they had to go. Probably logged off due to boredom or knowing this group would never fill or never find a tank. I’m a Level 39 Healer. After midnight EST, its very hard to find a group. I’m playing on Westfall server.
It seems RDF could solve this issue of not being able to fill a group.
You need to take personal jabs because your argument is not sound. If it doesn’t help foster social interactions IT’S OUTTA HERE BABY!
RDF wouldn’t change your issue. All it would do is make it impossible to communicate with the people you are running with because you arn’t in a group yet and they are nothing but a symbol to you. At least now you can communicate with your party.
The problem is your hours of play and the server you’re on, on my Mega Server I rarely get queue times as a DPS role and I can typically queue in at any time of the day.
The problem with RDF is that it won’t solve your issue, the queue times will still be long and there’s a very high chance the people you group with will ninja loot/etc as this has all been common occurrences on Retail.
I suggest maybe moving to a higher pop server if you can only play at odd times.
Yep I can communicate with my party but I’m not able to find a full party so nice logic there
Whats the problem with just adding RDF and you not using it? It’s like people that don’t like to PvP, it’s in the game but they just don’t do it. Have they quit the game? No.
I mean 1st off I think your title is hilarious because it always makes me laugh when one person thinks they speak for the entire community for 1.
2nd of all not everyone plays the same thirdly no offense but the game is it made for specifically you and your friends If you don’t want to use it then don’t I’ve always said if I really want to make him equal just put the extra rewards and extra experience and teleport as options for the group finder we have now.
After they fix the problems with it And let people turn it on and off as well as the cross realm feature If people don’t want the teleport to dungeons fine they don’t have to they can fly there if that’s so important to them.
My thing is just give people The Choice
That’s not how it works, on Retail no one uses LFG chat for regular dungeons because RDF has taken complete control over it.
Classic is unique in that LFG chat is used for virtually ALL grouping, it should stay that way as it is what makes us different from Retail and we have used it for fine for over 3 years now.
RDF will only kill social interaction and ruin the spirit of Classic.
The MAJORITY of people do NOT want RDF, the Devs even sided with us because we have given feedback to never implement it.
I understand that you think it’s great and all but you are in the minority if you want RDF and quite frankly the minority should never decide for the majority.
RDF has a lot of negative effects to social interaction and it is a Retail tool that should stay in Retail.
Because haters gonna hate.
How dare you not play the game how they have arbitrarily deemed “correct”.
The LFG Tool/Group Finder Tool was introduced to solve a problem of low population servers, where there weren’t enough players to form dungeon groups.
This is the literally the problem and you keep going back to social aspect reason. The game will literally die on its own if there’s nobody to play with while leveling. Max level is a different thing as you can find groups a lot easier.
We are about to be in WOTLK and its becoming harder every day to find dungeon groups while leveling. Literally just add RDF to be there while leveling and disable it at max level and im fine with that. There will still be just as much spam in LFG about dungeons and raids.
You act like adding RDF will make this game become retail, and everyone uses the excuse that when RDF was added is when the “community started dying”. This will be Wrath of the Lich King, not retail. WOTLK 3.3 patch had RDF.
And I don’t know where you get your information but I just don’t believe that there’s this huge majority that doesn’t want RDF, most people in this thread don’t agree with you. Starting to think you’re just someone who’s paid by Blizzard to sit on the forums and defend not adding RDF.
Blizzard has sent out MANY polls and surveys throughout TBC asking people for their opinion on RDF, a MAJORITY of the results came out as being anti-RDF.
The Lead Dev himself tweeted out saying anti-RDF is the majority as well as a Dev yesterday in an interview doubling down and siding with us.
The situation you currently face is a player problem.
On a Mega Server like I said you can log in at any odd hour of the day and find a group almost instantly, be it a low level dungeon or an end game raid. The social aspect is VERY important to us in that by bringing in RDF you are essentially removing the Rights from player to pick who they want to play with and you’re forcing them to play with random people.
You seem to only be thinking about the convenience factor but not everything else that is negative that comes with.
That’s just a bunch of Ad Hominen and 100% irrelevant to the discussion here.
Spamming chat channel that you’re looking for a tank 20 times isn’t a social aspect, it’s just a way to get you to type a lot more and waste your time not actually playing the game.
I’ve never gotten a survey about RDF so I really don’t buy what you’re saying, you do claim to represent the entire community when a bunch of people don’t agree with you.
Overall, people I’ve talked to/friends that have returned to the game, have been disappointed that the RDF feature isn’t there. I personally haven’t talked to anyone in game that is against RDF so I don’t understand where you’re getting these numbers from of it being a huge majority that’s against it.
100% agree. Maybe community/game was already dying.
Reason blizzard added RDF in the first place:
Blizzard Entertainment:
“The LFG Tool/Group Finder Tool was introduced to solve a problem of low population servers, where there weren’t enough players to form dungeon groups.”
This is a current problem, but oh no don’t add RDF because the majority who can find groups easily because they’re playing on a mega server have no problems. Screw everyone else right? The minority as you called them.
Btw I’m mainly talking to Original Poster, but I 100% agreed with the reply.
So your “solution” is for Blizzard to put the final nail in the coffin with a Retail RDF system. Fat chance, human.
Yeah I totally love the new Group finding tool, nothing says community like scrolling through a cluttered list looking for a Brewfest boss group only to see 10 groups listed while full because they forgot to delist. Peak social experience, must be even more social on servers where the other faction doesn’t exist. RDF would ruin the quality of the servers.
It still cracks me up to see people act like these servers are a shining example of community.
Yes because your attitude is not at all the problem …
As a Community we don’t want tanks and healers getting free mounts and gear but guess what
It’s the ui that’s bad. Idk why we don’t have the retail premade group ui
Once again just waited 45 mins for group to disband. Had a tank and healer and couldn’t find 2 dps for SM Cath.
According to this “RDF” person, the reason I can’t find a group is that I’m not playing on a mega server.
So with their logic, for this reason RDF should still not be added, since its “my fault” for not picking a mega server.
I don’t think you’re actually seeing the problem here, this will actually cause people to burn out and quit playing if they’re forced to solo quest on every toon they make.
Dungeons are more fun than questing, more engaging, even if people aren’t saying a lot, you’re still playing with people, instead of solo questing by yourself.
Also, are you forgetting about guilds? Guilds are a huge social aspect and always will be. I talk in guild chat every time I’m on. I really don’t understand the logic behind this argument.