Arms Warrior - Pumping!

Hey all,

Sooo I leveled from 1-71 as fury and it was fun, I decided to switch to Arms and boy oh boy!. SO MUCH FUN!, big crits, no downtime when played correctly and my damage is pumping.

I did The Nexus and was on average 30k damage ahead of the no2 dps (ret) and I was no1 on the last boss by 50k.

There’s simply such a good feeling hitting Sweeping Strikes, trinket and blade storm on a group of mobs and just seeing numbers everywhere. So fun! And im only 73!.

Why is arms never talked about much?, and I see is one of the lowest dps specs…I’m pumping atm…when does arms “fall off” the dps train?.

Thanks all,

PS I’m thinking of race changing to Tauren as they just look more suited to the warrior fantasy along with orc, but I think I’d much rather get hit by an orc than a 8ft “ Minotaur”

Arms doesn’t really “fall off”, it just doesn’t scale with gear as well as basically everything else. That’s the reason you’re crushing it now, because you don’t really need all the stats that Fury does to perform

Next expansion it’ll be right back at the top at the start, and then as gear climbs everything else will pass it by

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Makes sense thanks for that, it’s so fun all the abilities lighting up etc and big chunky crits haha love it. Might have to try some PvP I hear arms are monsters in PvP with a pocket healer

Arms is good at cleaving, even at level 80. It’s single target dps where the spec truly suffers.

You should try the revenge build, revenge with sweeping strikes is absolutely ridiculous burst cleave damage.

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If you like Arms then you’re going to love Cata. Arms is expected to be one of the top dps specs in all of Cata.

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the big thing about the revenge build isn’t so much sweeping strikes, but Unrelenting Assault which increases revenge damage by 20% and reduces the revenge CD to 1 second on top of the 60% damage from improved revenge (imp rev also makes revenge a cleave)

One problem with the UA build is that you have to be the tank to use it, you can’t proc revenge if you’re aren’t dodge/block/parrying, and you can’t dodge/block/parry if mobs aren’t swinging at you. Also to keep the proc up to use it every 1 second that means you’ll need have multiple mobs hitting you your damage falls off with single target mobs like bosses because they just don’t attack every second, never mind the fact you won’t dodge/block/parry every attack.

While the unrelenting assault puts more points into arms than into prot, it would be difficult to call it an arms build, because it just doesn’t have that same class fantasy of smacking guys with a big 2h weapon

Try arms out in PvP that is what it is made for!

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Yeah, in pvp (once you’ve got good gear) arms feels like you’re playing a different game than everyone else lol just shreds through everything.

Ive been doing icc as arms :joy: only first 4 bosses pugging, but like people said with bladestorm+sweeping strikes up, imp Tclap+incite to spread deep wounds to everything, the cleave is insano. Its single target you fall off. Imp slam helps single target when youre low rage, but youll still be very low if there isnt multiple targets to cleave during the fight.

Sweeping Strikes doubles the burst damage. Makes Revenge hit your primary target twice if it’s cleaving. It’s absurdly powerful.

That’s certainly understandable. I was just throwing it out there as a suggestion if he likes that big cleave from Sweeping Strikes.

It’s always been the way to go for leveling. But at end game it doesn’t scale so well. It’s not as bad as people make out, but it’s a bit of a one trick pony. It does great damage on AoE and cleave packs whenever Bladestorm is up and falls off hard outside of that.

It’s around 10% off Fury damage in p3 bis as far as sustained dps is concerned and can peak higher in bursts. But in the end other specs cover its raid niches and do consistently better damage, so there’s no real need to ever pick an arms warrior over any of the other viable options. Feral provides a bleed buff, Combat the physical damage buff, and Fury covers sunders and commanding shout - all of which do consistently higher sustained dps than Arms, and scale a lot better with gear.

If you’re in a casual guild and find it fun it’s a viable spec. But for guilds trying to min max it is hard to justify.

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AN has a cool concept, but stacking the web wrap it’s just not worth. Also even if I get buffed, the buff doesn’t work for almost every spriest spell, so it’s worthless

Arms is the kind of spec that starts high but finish low.

I’ve tried fury again but just seems every second or third attack is a miss…and I lose about 400dps

Dual wielding is harder to land hits with. If leveling with Fury you probably want to go with a 2 hander.

Prot for lvling is fantastic

arms is the absolute most gear dependent spec in the game… not sure what wotlk you’re playing. lol

Sure, I guess, if you don’t count Fury, Fire Mage, Rogue in general, mmmm Ret Paladin maybe…Balance Druid can get a bit rough at lower levels…

Arms rage generation is dependent on auto attack damage done, directly correlates with gear.

Talking about how good damage is, doesn’t realize sweeping strikes doesn’t work with blade storm….

sweeping strikes most definitely works with bladestorm in wrath, not in retail.

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