Arms needs 3 simple changes imo

Classes Warrior
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  1. Delete whirlwind. Merge its damage into Slam, TC, and Cleave.

  2. Replace Improved Cleave talent with Crushing Advance: Each enemy hit by Cleave causes your next MS to damage all enemies in front of you for X%. Stacks up to 3 times (current tier minus bonus MS damage so it is still a priority in AoE)

  3. Make Slam and Cleave cost 40 rage and adjust damage accordingly.

I believe this should reduce button bloat and improve rage management while continuing the proc based flow with SD, Tactician, and Battlelord.

  • Keep MS (and Cleave in AoE) on CD

  • Spend SD procs on CD (especially with new tier)

  • Need to dump rage? Cast Slam in ST or TC in AoE

  • Need more rage? Cast OP

5 main rotational buttons in AoE and 4 main rotational buttons in ST (plus TC to apply rend). Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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I like this. But also make cleave baseline and buff it.

I don’t like this. Cleave is effectively aoe version of mortal strike.

We need more controll over our rage. Right now you can quickly cap rage or go periods where you’re starved if you don’t play well. Imo, reduce the rage cost + rage generation or increase our max rage to 200.

Also, remove recklessness from arms. Obviously increase our damage to compensate.

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This alone would almost singlehandedly fix the problem with our rotational flow. Not to mention return MS to the big hitter ability it should be.

I also agree with making Cleave baseline for Arms and removing Whirlwind from Arms. It would help provide further distinction.

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Delete:

  • Slam
  • Whirlwind
  • Thunderclap
  • Cleave

Make a Lesser Bladefury which lasts for 0.1s and can be spammed and does all of the above…

Add a Rage spender off the GCD…

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Imo cleave should be arms aoe. Fury has ww, prot has tclap. Sweeping strikes feels horrible. So my 3 changes would be.

  1. Bake all arms aoe into cleave
  2. Get rid of colossus smash
  3. Get rid of all the mortal strike modifiers
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I just resubbed recently and have no idea what the optimal spec/rotation is or anything, but I feel like half the buttons on my bar are not being used. Everything dies pretty quick with just mortal strike, execute, overpower, and sweeping strikes when there’s more than one mob.

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I like the way you think but to iterate how about every 2nd cleave applies sweeping strikes to your next MS or Execute?

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I just want sweeping strike to be off GCD and for slam to stop getting all the buffs.

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You all are missing the biggest, most substantial fix needed for the spec.

The Mortal Strike sound effect needs to be changed, yesterday. Mortal Strike is supposed to be a grievous blow, something that seriously hurts whatever you are wailing on. You’d expect a meaty, brutal sound of a blow that well, “mortally wounds” someone.

But no. We get what amounts to someone in a kitchen smacking frying pans together. The ring of metal on metal? I expect that from a holier than thou Paladin, not a savage Warrior on the battlefield surrounded by the dead and soon to die.

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SHIIING

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The sound effect matches what Mortal Strike is right now since its damage is based off proc resets and modifiers rather than the ability innately being a hard hitter as it should be.

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That would be a good start. The biggest thing arms needs right now is just an Off Global rage spender that contributes to ToM, AM, and Tac, and simplest, easiest fix to that would be Heroic Strike, HS would fit that bill pretty well and be a great replacement to Ignore Pain since IP doesn’t contribute to dmg things anymore. Buffing Slam’s dmg and increasing its rage cost would help there but Slam needs a visual overhaul for me to like that, Slam just feels and looks so weak, I wouldn’t enjoy using it very much. Also, overpower needs to contribute to ToM windows somehow, having to use over power during colossus smash doesn’t feel good because I know its not contributing to ToM. And Storm of Swords needs to be nerfed in ST or make it like Fury’s SoS where it giga buffs Slam to and adds a CD to it. I thought I’d like using WW in single target again, but I was wrong, its aoe, just leave it there, this isn’t wrath Warrior.

And last but not least, for the love of god, remove Intimidating Shout and put Shockwave where it is in the tree. I don’t want to feel useless in M+ anymore.

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You can just sacrifice some small portion of dps and… take shockwave. It’s what the pvpers do

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This one made me laugh because the protection pally sounds the same. It sounds like your throwing pots and pans at the enemy. lol