Honestly, I wish t5 raids were gonna be hard, but people are gonna breeze through it if their guild is remotely organized
like on my server 100 guilds are clearing T4 25 man content and only 3-5 guilds are thought to actually be going to clear T5 anytime soon so based off my server its even lower
I mean, I think heâs right in that fewer people will clear overall. Probably going to see something similar to naxx in classic, some groups get it week one, others have to learn it.
That said, a lot of guilds have been clearing it on the ptr for months now.
Yes, smart guilds do that. Same scenario for the hunters, if all warriors and rogues roll on the bows/guns it should go to the hunters until all of them have it. A smart guild would prioritize gear that way so it would benefit the entire raid.
A stat stick does not even come close to a melee getting their weapon or a hunter getting their ranged weapon.
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If you release S2 w/ Hyjal/BT do you know how broken arena would be? AND the length of S1. This isnt possible my friend, S2 lining with T5 is appropriate, the S2/T5 content gear is the same item level and on top of that even modeled and a recolored skin for this reason.
One of my mains happens to be an enhance which is why I know youre wrong. Talon/Rod is P2 BIS
Weapon speed is a big reason why theyre not BIS actually. Youre stuck either using a level 61 blue in P1 or syncing constantly
Same reasoning for why youre not gonna give the legendary or even Sunfury to a melee as a stat stick over a hunter who needs it⌠Not really a stretch bud
In the entire world there are maybe a couple dozen guilds that have cleared SSC, much less both⌠and the vast majority of those are overseas guilds
Theyre a huge step up from T4. Theyre not easy at all and yall are in for a rude awakening
/shrug thatâs what people said about BWl and AQ40 and NAxx.
Thatâs good, those classes both need as much help as they can get. If you are a warrior/druid and not trying to get your bis weapons from pvp you are griefing your group.
This. Of course OP doesnât care, heâs just terrified of the mere IDEA of not having every slot BiS from one preplanned route.
Donât worry OP, arena is a small, niche population. Even with no rating requirement S2 weapons available week one, itâs going to take the best players in the world 4 weeks to get, 8 for normal pvpers, and 12 weeks for your average pve casual.
Whatâs more, the pvp weapons arenât better than the t5 raid weapons for pve. You will get better gear, faster, than the arena guys will, like always.
On the other hand, the changes youâre suggesting (out of ignorance and fear) would literally cripple the pvp scene. Please just stop.
Forgot about us orcs. Netherbane x2 is still amazing. Barely sims lower and looks way cooler, which is what itâs all about.
Merciless Gladiatorâs Slicer Phase 2
Item Level 136
Binds when picked up
One-Hand Sword
203 - 305 Damage Speed 2.60
(97.69 damage per second)
+27 Stamina
Durability 105 / 105
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves hit rating by 10
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 12
Equip: [Increases attack power by 30.]
Talon of Azshara Phase 2
Item Level 134
Binds when picked up
Unique
One-Hand Sword
182 - 339 Damage Speed 2.70
(96.48 damage per second)
168 Armor
+15 Agility
Durability 105 / 105
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves hit rating by 20
Equip: [Increases attack power by 40.]
Yup seems SOOOOO overpowered⌠Are you even looking at the right season you clown? These weapons are virtually identical.
Even at a 2k level it will take a few weeks to accumulate the points required to purchase the weapons with Arena Points (As they get wiped after S1) So youâll have 2-3 weeks of SSC/TK Clears before these weapons are even an option for the high skilled players. High skill players who will have zero issue clearing content without it.
If we go by the old wonky timeline the PVP weapons become irrelevant and the PVE items (A phase ahead) will dominate those who solely PVP, putting them at a gear disadvantage.
Also if youâre basing all your data off clown sims where you stand in one spot youâre an idiot. No fights in TBC favor melee, nor favor anyone sitting still with 100% uptime on a bossâŚ
Do you really expect this type of player to be reliant on PVP weapons to clear content? ROFL, they will clear it within the first week without your âGame breaking weaponsâ which are the same ilevel as raid weapons.
If anything this makes your argument invalid and the reverse to be true. These âsweatsâ can get equal ilevel arena weapons week 1 and dominate arenasâŚ
Why donât you try not sucking at PvE.
The overpoweredness to them donât come by the power its the fact that 80-90% of guilds will not even be clearing SSC or TK for the first month or 2 and by that time there will be the ability to have many players more geared weaponwise than should be, and still just the fact that now we are gonna have around an 8 month pvp season for S2 or S3 unless they create a 5th season which they wonât do because the only way they could do that is by making it reward only cosmetics
Good thing the Raid weapons are off the few first bosses, negating your argument. Also if you watched any PTR stream at all, pugs are full clearing the content, also negating your â80-90%â Strawman statistic.
Youâre also VASTLY undermining how difficult it is to reach 1850 and obtain weapons in a short period of time, also ignoring the fact that players who easily reach 1850 will have any struggle with content at all regardless of PVP gear.
Sorry to break the news to you, but there are players that are simply better than you and your guild.
Small brain but also smooth brain
And they were mostly right about Naxx. Amd this is much harder. And you wont have world buffs to cheese the encounters with
I mean youre just wrong. You can clearly see all the kills on Wcl and literally like 20-30 groups have killed Vashj⌠And I highly highly doubt they were pugs
google - Vashj Pre-Nerf PTR Kill w/ VIewers (PuG)
kekâŚ
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