200k TV
3 bolts in 1.7 seconds
unlimited holy shock spam
160k chaos strikes
60% versa shamans
warriors doing 90% damage with deep wounds
Gushing ticking 25k and 50% of characters damage
Prot pally’s infinite stars
Twilight dev tanks, one shot
vitality conduit lay on hands for an entire team
This is just a gear race, nothing is skill
P.S if you have a 465+ lock and pvp, and you are not glad- You will be going back to PVE in SLs.
i have 6 characters that fit all those bills and let me tell ya-
everyone has all this if they care even a little at this point. complaining without having this stuff is pointless
p.s. 465 is undergeared
not for a lock
whoa i wanna know how warriors are doing 90% dmg with deep wounds!
Remember when it too longer than that to cast just one… What was blizzard thinking?
yah gear = rating to a large degree sucks big time
and to get gear you have to spam m+ and mythic raids and theres no vendor so u just pray u get the right stats, which you will never get full bis so u have to keep farming pve forever.
=( That’s no fun.
I mean, gear is fun to farm up, and there is a portion of every past (old time) arena seasons where you did not have gear as fast as the R1 guys, because they are just faster at it, but damn… You could at least get a set and be competitive 100% back in the day… Even back in TBC and Wrath and Cata when ratings were attached to items to a degree, the rating required for the items was low enough that you could get a set and be competitive any way with just a little work, and could get all that gear from PVP.
Why did Blizzard dumpster WoW Arena? It makes no sense at all, they had a perfect formula, people loved it then they just ruined everything with dumb choices.
something something playtime metrics
you didnt even need any rating to get bis gear when i started pvp in mop. just spam bgs for honor gear then que arena and even with a 20% winrate youd get bis eventually
I’ve literally seen warlocks be gladiator and never have broken 1800 before in 6+ seasons of playing. Class is insane
If that was true then just make the game FUN…
I am having FUN in Classic WoW and no kidding I am looking for and finding excuses to get on and play WoW now days because of Classic, and its really fun even if its got its own host of problems.
How hard can it be to just build fun retail game again? People like fun games, I know I do.
actiblizz has decided to go with the “abuse our players like the gambling addicts they are” like alot of games these days with loot boxes. Buy wow token, buy 15 carry, get bad item from weekly chest, repeat
corruption has nothing to do with tv hitting hard
Obviously an exaggeration but someone should tell OP warriors were doing this before corruption
We were the original gushers
Yeah I was looking at SL and here is what I see…
Lootbox weekly CHECK!
Torgast = Mini Diablo + Garrison Budget solo play experience + MoP proving grounds mash up with a TIME GATE!
Covenants = Artifact weapon grind 3.0
The rest of the game is basically an empty shell, with minimal investment made, AKA WoD all over again.
Ham fisted story line with bad writing.
ya pre much 
i feel alot of SL is riding on torghast being fun. hopefully it’s not too bad
I think its fun albeit there’s outliers that make it completely anti fun but games thrive when everyone is broken
Jus that there’s broken and then theres destro and dark slash adding to the entropic decay of the universe broken
I just think the disparity in gear is daunting.
i really don’t care. it’s too much farming and i really can’t be bothered trying to spend a 2nd jobs worth of time grinding bis of everything out.
at this point im done, and SL by the sounds of it is gonna be a refund
TWO expansions in a row of destro ruining > 1 year of content
lets see if SL makes 3 :)))))))))))
Was destro oppressive in legion? I don’t even really remember that expac besides I actually gibbed ppl with lava burst and frost shock