Are you going to respond to the rampant premading by the alliance or just leave it as is?

How would someone join one of these exactly?

Asking for a friend.

What about playing horde on a server where we’re outnumbered 5 to 1 in the world, yet we have to deal with all the crappy Q’s. Is that fair? Looks like we both play on same server guess you get the best of both worlds huh? Must be nice.

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Nah man git gud or quit.

Sounds like you should have “done some research” because this av version was widely known.

You should just reroll.

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Get gud unga bunga mud hutter

Nope, no changes.

Many players (those on PvE realms, mostly) had no involvement in this, and still pay the price.

What were people supposed to do, by the way? Just drop their Horde 60s and start leveling Alliance because you were outnumbered?

Horde are such crybabies hahaha. Will roll the most busted race/class combos they can and poopsock BRM for 40 hours at a time in 60 man raid groups, then cry about things that were actually in vanilla when they get put into a ret paladin’s cringe compilation in the rare chance they do a duel. Now they’re crying about how their actions have consequences when they made it a point to make alliance virtually unplayable on some servers for the past 3 months. Hahahaha oh no no no no no no look at this dude. Enjoy waiting in 30+ minute queues only to get dumpstered by alliance chads in premades.

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Even if I researched, that wouldn’t stop the fact a bg shouldn’t be solo queue.

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I don’t think this queuing thing is abuse, and I’d argue it’s the great faction equalizer (you Horde have all the power to change this by rerolling Alliance), but for the sake of your argument:

I guess a GM will have to whisper every member of both factions queuing - and somehow prove 100% that they’re abusing the system (Alliance shouldn’t be specifically targeted here - Horde have the same capability even if queue times are longer) - before actually taking action.

Sounds feasible, just as it was clearly feasible for them to do in P2 for every single person abusing safespotting - as seen by the excellent job they did dealing with it. I’m 100% confident that literally everyone who abused safespotting was whispered and then banned accordingly. For instance, over 100 horde were on our inn in Southshore at the start of phase 2; I looked the next week and there were only 50 or so, which is definitely a sign of Blizzard taking action, right?

Even if this WAS abuse, it wouldn’t be worth it for Blizzard to try to punish from a business standpoint. Not to mention, let’s consider what you Horde are asking for in this thread:

  1. Punish Alliance players for doing this? Won’t happen as players are just creatively using pre-existing game mechanics. Even if this did happen, banning Alliance would only make horde queues longer lmao

  2. Obfuscate battleground numbers. This clearly wasn’t in this build of vanilla, so BTFO with your changes and go play retail thanks. Also would only cause Alliance to stop queuing together, making horde queues even longer lmao

  3. Allow groups of 5 to queue together for AV. Silly horde, don’t you know this is classic WoW? Player driven solutions to player created problems! #NoChanges

  4. Faction transfers, which I shouldn’t even have to comment on. No. Changes.

All suggestions I’ve read should be refuted under “No Changes” - and many of the punitive suggestions would only cause horde queue times to go up. You guys could solve the issue by rerolling Alliance.

In short: Horde players are ugly IRL and therefore identify too much with their characters to give them up.

Sorry OP, seen this coming and prepared for it. If playing with your friends is the goal WSG is your option.

Honestly, it’s a small perk alliance get for dealing with horde players at the start of phase 2.

You guys made the game aides for a lot of alliance players with your zergs because of the imbalance and just laughed about it on here.

Look back and take your own advice - reroll.

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This is a player created issue. There are available solutions. Your choice to over look the solutions is in no way everyone else problem.

You might, but most wont. It’s less efficient. That’s what once a week? For the rest of the time they’re in capital cities. Even with your que’s you’ll lose out on more honor.

Horde are such crybabies. They couldn’t win in Phase 2 so they cried on the forums non stop until Daddy Blizzard came and released BGs early. Then they used the map imbalance in AV to rush and win in 8 minutes. But even that wasn’t good enough for these whiny horde because the other team adapted and started defending and now they couldn’t win anymore.

So these pathetic loser hordes couldn’t even win a map imbalanced in their favor so they had to QQ more and make premade AV discords because they can’t win a fight that even is already advantaged in their favor, they also have to vet every player and make sure they all have 100% mounts and perfect gear. Because of course whiny Horde need to have ALL the advantages.

It disgusts me how pathetic these Horde are. And now they’re crying that the way they cheat the system might get removed and they might have to go back to playing with non-vetted individuals like the other side does every game. How unfair!

Oh wait, that was ALL Alliance. You guys couldn’t be more pathetic.

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Thats what i did.

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Show me where the bad priest touched you. You got some serious issues we need to work on.

His new claim is that he plays on both.

I like that, ‘claim’. All your posts are claims about nonsense, least I can prove my claims.