Are you going to respond to the rampant premading by the alliance or just leave it as is?

[Karix-windseeker]

@Amberlamps-amanthul

[Blizzard, are you going to respond to the rampant premading by the alliance or just leave it as is?]

As it stands right now the Horde cannot group in AV with even a single player from their guild while Alliance are creating cross realm discords to premade with, getting full 40 man groups into games while in voice chat to stomp on Horde pugs.

All I want to know is Blizzard’s stance on this one way or another. Us Horde would like to be able to play together too.

Are there different rules for different factions? How can Alliance do something that Horde cannot do? If the rules are different, Blizzard should fix that. Otherwise, it is not a Blizzard problem.

[Amberlamps-amanthul]

Neither faction is supposed to be able to group together in AV for some reason. Yet Alliance are able to so yes they should make it even in that regard.

[Akumetsu-bigglesworth]

Sounds like pvp happened on a pvp server, you should just roll pve.

[anon293178]

I’m gonna throw some familiar words back at you now, Hordie:

pvp happened on a pvp server

[Gythriel-windseeker]

Alliance are queue shuffling and simul queueing to try and get in together, not a guaranteed thing, depends on time of day, overall pop, and how busy the BG’s are.

I remember it being a bit easier to pull off during off hours

[Zakiri-stalagg]

@Jeremiah-azralon

Does the horde need a coordinated raid five times bigger to beat a small group of mid 50s Alliance trying to reach BRD now? Pathetic.

I know right, Horde really showed their true colours in wpvp.

At least now we have even numbered BGs so Horde can prove how great they are at whining about being unable to win when the numbers aren’t massively in their favour.

[Zakiri-stalagg]

@Amberlamps-amanthul

Neither faction is supposed to be able to group together in AV for some reason. Yet Alliance are able to so yes they should make it even in that regard.

You aren’t supposed to be able to safespot and evade bug IF guards inside IF. You aren’t supposed to be able to MC duel bug off the no honour debuff after landing at a FP or zoning out of an instance. Being unable to roll Alliance and Horde on the same pvp server was to prevent spying and collusion.

Yet Horde exploited constantly to get past restrictions, debuffs, rules and what few things Blizz put in place to attempt to ensure fair play.

Thing is- if Horde could do this, they would be doing it- and if Alliance complained about it, Horde would say the exact same thing they’ve said about everything else they exploited and every other pvp related concern since launch.

So shove it- reroll or quit, advice from your own faction.

[Wackednz-malganis]

Can only queue solo, should only work solo. Randomize ali queues, don’t show bg numbers and put a delay on queue pop.

[Dhalgren-blaumeux]

@Gythriel-windseeker

And Horde can not do this why exactly?

Here’s why - Alliance has instant queues. They do a queue count-down on discord but no one accepts it unless the majority of the group is assigned the same battleground. If they reject the assignment, the do the queue countdown again then maybe go in. Instant queues mean virtually no time lost.

Horde would wait 15 minutes between attempts.

I don’t have a huge problem with it actually, but would prefer that Blizz not make the BG assignment visible when the queue pops.

[Zakiri-stalagg]

@Dhalgren-blaumeux

Here’s why - Alliance has instant queues.

Was it worth it Horde?

[Gythriel-windseeker]

Dunno, back before the av zerg thing, when people were in ti for a long time, a lot of times we did not make it in the 1st round, so would pick the bg number the others made it into, queue and go farm some stuff for a while.
A lot of people would not stay in the BG terribly long and so spots would open and eventually you;d work everyone in.

Is a bit hard when they go so fast

[Dhalgren-blaumeux]

Absolutely. Soon, if AV continues to be non-competitive against premades, we will go back to tearing up alliance raid groups. It was fun. It will be fun again.

[Zakiri-stalagg]

@Dhalgren-blaumeux

Absolutely. Soon, if AV continues to be even numbers match ups that don’t give Horde free wins, we will go back to tearing up solo Alliance in the world with our raid groups. It was fun to engage in no effort ez mode pvp where I don’t ever risk dying. It will be fun again.

Have fun ranking while sitting in the middle of nowhere doing nothing while you hope an Alliance comes by so you can get 5 honour after its split between your raid.

[Unwashed-fairbanks]

I mean we talked about this all of phase 2 and you guys were content being the majority in wpvp making the server aides for the opposite faction Sit in your queues or just reroll #nochanges

[Unwashed-fairbanks]

The rules aren’t different. Horde just overpopulate alliance so much that alliance can drop queue until they are together in comms and horde can’t because of their wait time hence the qq.

[Amberlamps-amanthul]

@Zakiri-stalagg

You aren’t supposed to be able to safespot and evade bug IF guards inside IF. You aren’t supposed to be able to MC duel bug off the no honour debuff after landing at a FP or zoning out of an instance. Being unable to roll Alliance and Horde on the same pvp server was to prevent spying and collusion.

I love this example. These are all things GMs will whisper a player about in warning before actioning them.

https:// i.imgur .com/Tf5gnvt.png

[Eninya-heartseeker]

Maxed for PvP to min the queues.

[Áurora-argent-dawn]

There is no diffrence… Its the horde racials that creates the problem to beginn with !

[Awenn-remulos]

AV as Alliance is a complete misery, what are you complaining about? And it’s only going to get worse when everyone who wants Exalted faction has it. I know I won’t be going anywhere near PvP once I’m there. Enjoy your easy honour farm, inbetween 3 hour queues.

[Sugarpaws-burning-blade]

LOL all these guys. “I just want to play with my friends”. Shoot all I want is to be able to move to a dungeon or farm an herb or two out in the world.

All you horde should probably just re-roll, er I mean git gud lol.

Wait no I forgot. Go back to retail.