I’ve been playing through the war campaign on a disposable alt so I could unlock the Zandalari trolls and flying, and I just got to the part where Baine gets busted for freeing Derek. I found what Lor’themar had to say relevant to this thread, and I don’t think anyone had brought it up before.
Lor’themar Theron
“I cannot fault Baine’s heart, even if his actions were drastic. Through this act of defiance, he exposed a schism in the Horde that has been growing since the attack on Teldrassil.”
Here’s some evidence showing Sylvanas’ actions at Teldrassil was met with opposition within the Horde since the beginning. I’m curious to learn why this also doesn’t count.