Are we really gonna have to wait for a year until we see a change in the honor system?

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As it is currently, PvP and PvE gearing are horribly uneven in many aspects.

Gating Rank 11+ rewards behind an unhealthy grind obviously isn’t going to help create a healthy PvP experience. It means people interested in PvP will have quit as soon as they realize they can no longer progress, so typically around Rank 10-11 with AV exalted.

I don’t see how having R14 gated for NEETs is going to create a healthy PvP experience for Classic.

Shouldn’t there be more talk about this? PvP players deserve to have equal gearing options to PvE, as both players pay the same sub fee.

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RPers will do whatever they need to get titles so this isn’t a problem for us. Welcome to Wyrmrest Accord! I think people might agree with you here, there are some avid PvPers on the server.

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Sir, this is a Wendy’s Drive-Thru …

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Isn’t the point of classic to recreate vanilla as it was, though? I understand why that might be frustrating, but at the same time a lot of people want that authentic experience.

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(Not to mention it’s just generally worse than BiS raid gear. The same sort of issue that PvP gear’s always had.)

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Every time someone says this, it just proves J. Allen Brack right.

The Vanilla PvP experience wasn’t healthy. That’s why they changed it. But everybody asked for Vanilla, so Vanilla is what you’re going to get, warts and all.

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All right, listen. It’s not well-known, but we RPers can change the honor system via a dread ritual.

But it’s only been attempted once.

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You missed your own realm forum.

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He said you couldn’t be any Farthir from the truth and you smell like Swiss cheese.

I also believe he said “neener neener you’re not a winner” but I may have misheard that.

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The topic would be far better suited to the Classic forums instead of a single server that doesn’t generally give a hoot about how broken the old PvP system was.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/c/wow-classic

Here you go OP, hope this helps you find the topics you’re concerned about better.

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He says thank you and you are kind.

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What do you mean, now?

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Do you ever wonder why we don’t defeat raid bosses by just piling stuff up in front of the door to their dungeons until they can’t get out? Feels like we could save ourselves a lot of trouble.

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Don’t be ridiculous, they can’t drop their epic purple pants if we don’t beat them down in person.

Wait, that came out wrong.

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But we only need those pants to fight the other monsters, whom we can also just seal up inside their raid.

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Look, it’s an MMO. This is not gonna work out if you keep questioning why we’re doing it.

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I think you’re just mad because I came up with this genius plan first.

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that has never been why someone’s been mad at you

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hello welcome to the Wyrmrest Accord realm forums Farthir please tell me about your roleplay character

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I just wanna point out that trying to argue with Enekie by making a fat joke is sorta like flinging a handful of glitter at a Marine. Your best case scenario here is that this is deemed too stupid to be worth the utter annihilation it’s clearly asking for.

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