Are We as Players Ungrateful?

Something that has bothered me is that despite the effort that goes into the development of this game, there aren’t enough posts that express gratitude for the blood, sweat, and tears that are poured into this game.

One portion of the player base that’s a repeat offender (and that I strongly advocate for removal from the game) is the PvP player base.

It’s a minigame that has acted as a tax to the resources of our game developers and yet time and passion has still been lovingly poured into it. It strikes me that despite Blizzard’s best efforts, they continue to endure being ripped off by bad actors who don’t appreciate the effort that’s gone into the development of PvP.

Another point of contention is the fixation on the Trading Post rewards. It’s free cosmetics for simply logging in and doing what you were already going to do. How prosperous are we that we can moan about assets (that someone poured time into to develop) that are free?

I think it’s important that we collectively wake up and try to be more grateful. I for one am happy to be here and I appreciate the passion that goes into this game from all angles.

In summary:

  • Remove PvP (move it to a separate client)
  • Soften your voice about nonmaterial issues (e.g., Trading Post is not as exciting for 1-2 months)
  • Soften your voice and make less noise about class balance. It’s being worked on, and it’s unhelpful to the process to be impatient
  • Say “Thank you” and continue to support the game
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We show gratitude with our money! This is a capitalistic society, remember.

The anomaly is people who hate the game with a passion and still play. Blizz is a business, the only way anyone with decision-making power will care is if it impacts their bottom line. If you continue to pay, expect to receive the same service.

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Hoo boy! This one is going to hook quite a few fish.

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The only gratitude Blizz gets is from my sub. That’s all they deserve.

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No we are not…

20 years since launch and we still have:

:DDOS Attacks causing server instability
:Server instability in open world during events like Theatre, World Boss and Undermine Zone in general
:Class (un)Balance is off the charts with too many abandoned specs/classes
:Gameplay Bugs that are never fixed
:Constant inclusions of - and I quote - “largely negative, with many players finding the system frustrating and disruptive to the game experience” systems like the Corrupted Visions, Drive, Borrowed power instead of focusing on what players actually want
:Constant rehashed content thats out of touch with the community
:M+ dungeon picks that people cannot understand

So no, paying $20 a month for 20 years and still getting the same results in broken, out of touch and pandering to the casuals by giving them all top tier end game items… nah we’re not being ungrateful. Simple answer is the constant changes in Bliz HQ have led to a game which we all recognize as past its prime and it has a feel of Bliz themselves have given up in trying to work out what we want.

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It’s a product, we care about results not effort.
Next bait :upside_down_face:

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lol no dude. We’re paying customers. How can we possibly ungrateful, we’re giving them money

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There is no effort, its development based on mind blast meetings on what people find fun in current games…

People like mario cart - add in Drive
People like the sims add in housing
People like Fortnite add in plunderstorm

Instead of what do people really like in WoW? how do we build on that?

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When Blizzard gives me a Radiant/Holy RDPS spec for Priest I’ll be grateful.

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For what it’s worth. WoW and the WoW forums give me life. It’s my go to between activities or while I’m waiting for something. If I had to say two things I get most value for $ for is YouTube/WoW.

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I don’t even like PVP but hold on I have a response.

(the response is me laughing at you thinking ANY love or resources go into modern PVP)

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“Something that has bothered me” - Needs to be heard and appeased.
“Something that has bothered someone else but not me” - They are terrible people don’t appreciate anything.

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WoW went from having influences stemming from pop culture to outright snatching up mechanics that exist in other games and marketing it as something they made into an original form.

Class balance has never been on the top of Blizzard’s priority list. Players have literally been whinging about it for years.

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I guess it is for the last 20 years lol

Classes has never ever been balanced, sine 2004, but you can wait more if you want

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I am greatful to get to play this game

but

I understand it is ephemeral and can be taken from me at any time without my knowlege or consent.

So I dont hold things in this game too close to my heart.

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Gladiator Warrior as a 4th spec would do it for me.

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Blizzard is far to big of a company and WoW is far to well known of a game to have let many of their problems come to fruition for any reason other than either they didnt care or the money was good.

Companies need to be held accountable constantly and as subscribers were no less valuable than shareholders themselves. There is no money without subs, so it is in there best interest to follow what players want and need before something new and shiny comes to consoles or something.

Also, removing PvP is ridiculous.

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Ungrateful? What?.. its a product sold to us for money, produced by a team that are paid to create it. Its their jobs.

We thank them with our dollars when we pay for the game. If there is a issue with a product its fair for people to provide feedback.

Blizzard have actual people that are paid to read feedback and filter it back to the development teams. Its just business.

Gratefulness is only appropriate for things you are given without cost to you.

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As a SWTOR refugee I read the first sentence and agreed as this game has gotten more content in a single patch then SWTOR has received in 3 years

then I read the next sentence about PvP and realized OP is a literal clown

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Playerbase is fickle. Always will be.

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