Are Titans actually "The Light" Pantheon?

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My whole life… The Light has been my guiding force. From my early days as a young mercenary conscript into the Stormwind marshals in Northshire to this very day as I stand on the edge of time looking towards the future from within the realms of Death and Dragons themselves.

ALWAYS has The Light and its power been represented to me as being related to or being the power of the Titans. I have never questioned this. The Titans have always simply been the Light Pantheon even when they were the only commonly known “pantheon”… but… why?

We live on this planet with The Light, it is all around us and it’s power evident in the faith and miracles of its parishioners. Where are the Titans? With us here as The Light is? No. Elsewhere… Alien.

Has a Titan ever been seen to actually wield “The Light” even as a lowly priest, paladin, or even nature based classes can?

Forgive and correct my ignorance if I have missed something or am miss remembering because this is all strictly off the top of my head and or a** but…

To my knowledge they have cast many a spell and cantrip of Life, Death, Fire, Ice, Arcane in many forms, and even Fel, Shadow, Void, and Necromancy. They even seem to have their own elemental/power and specialties. Where then in their flinging of power from one end of the cosmos to the next is their usage of Light in any form without the help of an artifact or device?

Naruu use Light and even the Titan’s creations and machinations use Light. Now that I am thinking on it, it does always seem like when Titans or their constructs have Light in use in their structures it is never in a natural form. Rather it is always in a mechanically or magically harnessed and controlled kind of way.

Seems awfully like their only usage of The Light or association with its power is secondhand. If this is true then the recent revelations of the Titans being liars and making The Light look like the bad guy may simply be a half truth wherein The Light is being misrepresented by trickster alien "gods’ trying to further their own designs with disregard to us or The Light’s will.

This could be possible due to The Light’s inherently passive nature or any other number of reasons I have yet to ponder.

What have you to say on this? Have we been living a lie within a lie?

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Well, I theorized Azeroth was supposed to become the Light Titan given that Azerite has a hue of arcane blue and the Light’s signature gold.

That said, there is Amitus from Hearthstone, even if Hearthstone is non-canon.

https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/wiki/Amitus,_the_Peacekeeper?rdfrom=https%3A%2F%2Fwarcraft.wiki.gg%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DAmitus%26redirect%3Dno

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Are you… roleplaying?

From what we know The Titans use whatever magic they want to.

That includes the Light.

Tyr, a Titan creation, specialized in using Light magic. Others have no connection with it at all.

The Titans have largely been associated with Arcane or just ‘magic’ in general.

Not really sure where you got this idea.

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It would make sense if she is the being like them that CAN use The Light… but maybe that is why they fear or covet her so greatly. Thanks for your input.

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No.

The Titans are being from the realm of Order, which is why they order the universe and wield arcane magic.

An exception is Eonar, whom is from the realm of Life, which is why she is often at odds with the rest of the Pantheon.

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The Titans are… a controversial complex topic.

The basics would be that they are Ordered world souls. Aman’thul is a bit of a wild card here, as no other titan existed so he may of just convinced the others he was like them and going around infusing Order into sleeping world souls is the natural and right thing to do. As far as we know, the Light has not converted a world soul to its cause.

With Eonar, it feels like the forces of Life might of gotten to her first, before Aman’thul attempted to excise the influence of Life and did not entirely succeed in fully Ordering her would soul.

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Eonar wasn’t from the realm of Life. She was born the same way the other Titans were, from a World Soul.

Argus was a Titan of Death.

Sargeras became a Titan of Fel.

Life, Death, and Fel each have their representation amongst the Titans whom all are beings of Order. Only Light and Void remain unrepresented.

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Well, yes… but also no.

He was like that because the Dreadlords had been secretly pumping him full of Death juice so he would fall into the shadowlands and kickoff the whole dismantling of the machine of death conspiracy.

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You’d think the rest of the Burning Legion would’ve caught onto that since, you know… Argus was vital to their entire war machine and was also their home world in effect. Also, there was so much Fel all over the place that demons could permanently die on the planet.

Regardless of how it came about the fact of the matter remains that there is a Titan of Death, a Titan of Fel, and a Titan of Life. Well… “was” a Titan of Death, I should say, unless Argus comes back at some point, which doesn’t seem likely, but Blizzard’s kind of gone back and forth on so much stuff.

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I hope poor argus is gone. They made us double kill his soul at this point after thousands of years of torment.

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All Titans so far are born from World Souls, Eonar included. The other Titans embody the realm of Order, their only mission is to order the universe. The force of the realm of Order is Arcane, they all wield Arcane powers, except …

No. He was corrupted into that.

Yes. He was corrupted into that.

Actually, not in-game but there is Titan of Light, it’s called Amitus.

So … wrong wrong wrong wrong

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Did I say he was born into it?

Yes, I did say that.

She’s in Hearthstone, which is non-canon. She might show up in WoW, but that will be a, ‘wait and see.’

Not really.

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Amitus is a Hearthstone Creation, which is its own… thing. So she is not a canonical titan.

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There was a time when I wouldn’t have been surprised if Blizz brought Amitus into the main game to villain bat her… but most of that kind of writer are gone. So I don’t think it’ll happen.

While I think the Titans aren’t Light, I think they could use it if they wanted.

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I don’t think Blizzard really knows what they’re doing with cosmic forces anymore.

Arcane is somehow supposed to be order, but whenever we see Arcane in its wild state it’s chaotic. Meanwhile, Death and Light are orderly to such an insane degree that they’re essentially robots just living out their programming.

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The eternal ones are literally robots it seemed

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They seem to be drawing a line between Titanic/Order magic and wild arcane magic. I would say our view of chaos is a bit skewed. When you imagine two planets colliding for example, it seems pretty chaotic, and yet everything happening is bound by very specific scientific rules. It is all still ordered and within the system, so to speak. Titanic/Order magic on the other hand seems to be more focused towards civilization. It is the magic of taming nature (wild arcane phenomena) to be useful. Arcane magic can be like fire, you can harness it, but it can also burn your house down if you loose control of it.

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Wild arcane magic seems to be more “It may do what you want it to, it may turn you into a chicken, or it may reverse time and turn you inside out.” It seems very unpredictable in what effects it has.

Not even the blue dragon flight is able to control wild arcane magic properly.

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It’s basically WoW’s version of Wild Magic from DnD. Works most of the time, but when it backfires, it usually does so pretty spectacularly

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Come to think of it, we’ve never seen Fel magic be properly chaotic either. It’s supposed to be the magic of chaos and it’s just kind of always been Lawful Evil.