You’re not thinking the definition through. A matriarchal society is one where the accepted norm is that power is defined by the female gender where the male gender has substantially reduced rights and power. America was a patriarchal society until relatively recently when women had far reduced property rights compared to men, they were not even allowed to have credit in their name.
However even in the Pre-Sundering Night Elf empire you had men like Lord Ravencrest who had one of the highest military rankings around, both male and female warriors deferred to him.
Britain is ruled by a Queen and had Maggie Thatcher the “Iron Lady” as one of it’s most powerful Prime Ministers. No one however would make the argument that Britain was a matriarchy even when both of these were true.
The Night Elves do have roles which are heavily , but not absolutely defined by gender (Male Priests, at least 2 female ArchDruids) However there is no indication that they are anything but egalitarian when it comes to the genders.
I agree with you completely. I don’t think there’s enough of a destinction between gender and role to call the Night Elves a matriarchy.
I am also refuring Doness and the writers claim. The night elves in my opinion, they are an egalitarian society. We are on the same page.
It takes more than putting the woman in front of the man in the loading screen. That sounds silly, like the writers thought that was enough to establish that women were “in charge” but still had subtle sexist things like Malfurian telling Tyrande to shut up. Or how the NE narrative still prioritizes Malfurian and the druids and male driven stories over female ones.
The NE’s have felt like a wannabe matriarchy trapped by patriarchal male writers.
Well, the writers can be wrong. As I said before, if a writer says that 2+2=5 on Azeroth, that doesn’t make it true. An outside observer can still make the calculation.
Yes the standard definition that Blizzard is using is wrong. I’m sorry if my humor wasn’t translated well in text.
As a woman I define it same as you. Society has to exclusively focus on women, and the needs of women to be a matriarchy. The rest is just female led patriarchy.
Egalitarian is best. Although I do wonder if society in general would improve under a true matriarchy. Historically we can see the effect of matriarchy and patriarchy. In matriarchy we see society expand in growth, during patriarchy, humanity stagnates. That’s why the progression of humanity looks more like a staircase than an upward climb. Patriarchy is historically focused on war, matriarchy is focused on technological advancements and infrastructure.
So long as you have an outside force tethering you the How To Be A Kyrian manual says they are not allowed to pull you to be processed in Oribos. The Spirits outside/around Bwon’s temple are tethered by their pacts with him, I would imagine. Wisps are the result of Elune’s blessing upon them, anchoring them to the plane of Life as nature spirits. That is why those who perished in Teldrassil never became wisps, Elune intentionally withdrew her blessing. Whoops.
Highmountain Tauren. I forgot about them. But Tauren are patriarchal, that was the whole reason of the Tauren civil war, the Highmountain didn’t want to follow such a rigid patriarchy, they are an egalitarian society now. The Grimtotem wanted a full matriarchy.
No, she directed them to Ardenweald. However, since her perceptions do not extend to the Shadowlands she could not know that they were intercepted and tossed in the Maw.
She sent them to the shadowlands, the way all souls go there. She intentionally didn’t anchor them, so the Kyrian picked them up and tossed them in the sorter. The vast majority of Kaldorei would by nature of their culture end up in Ardenweald, its just the sorting hat was sort of broken and someone thought that, out of infinate other options, the best failsafe option for this eventuality was Ultramax Security Prison Hell.
Or at least that is how it seems to be to me. The “sent forth a cascade of souls” bit could be taken more than one way. The rule of Shadowlands was “be as vague as possible so we don’t have to commit to anything”.
I initially considered that possibility, but even that seems too corny for Blizz. If they do do that, they better Have Sylvanas suddenly fly down from the Heavens over Lordaeron on a beautiful skeletal war unicorn to take her place among the Forsaken.
That’s not a real thing. Horde players got tired of Nelf players voicing their justified frustrations with the story, and invented a term to bully and silence their voice.
That’s how that works. When you have a word that is used to mock a group of people, and they do not… You’re the one doing the “Harassing”
You don’t need to say anything. I don’t hate you. I just think the term is cringe.
It’s not much of a sacrifice if the sacrifice-ee’s don’t have a say in the matter. Kind of oof to listen to characters take about it like there was a choice. Last I checked no one talks about the victims of the 9/11 attacks like they ‘sacrificed’ their lives. That’s usually reserves for the firefighters who knowingly ran into the towers.
You didn’t just vent your frustrations on the story, you also vented your frustrations on Horde players. You called us N@zi’s for participating in the War of Thorns. A narrative choice we had no way of getting out of.
You like to cling to the fact that the War of Thorns was not your choice. But you also never miss an opportunity to add to the dogpile on Nelf players. To laugh and take pleasure in our frustrations and disappointment.
And you, specifically, consistently made justifications for genocide because you’re a Sylvanas fan girl. It doesn’t make sense to me, if you condemn war of Thorns, then you condemn the person responsible for it as well.
I didn’t come at you because you’re a Horde player. I come at you because you are a bully to nelf players. Because you are a Sylvanas loyalist but you don’t have the courage to admit to yourself what that actually means.
If people say “I like Sylvanas, I liked War of Thorns, I enjoyed being a villain.” Then fine. I have nothing to say to that.
But you? You want to be a War Criminal loyalist and hold a moral high ground while doing so. Completely and utterly robbing nelf players of anything but complete loss and disregard in this story.
