Are these arena tier lists correct?!

PVP Arenas
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lf blood/mw/warr or bm :dracthyr_love_animated:

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I honestly can’t think of a single time during when I played that rogue didn’t have some spec that was in the top percentile, but I can think of plenty of times that rogue was just unnecessarily overtuned, like s1 WoD combat.

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I just wish they could die again so they can be punished for blowing defensives to be unpeelable.

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I like how they even made cheat good so if the rogue was too slow to press one of their five off global outs they still usually don’t die

Oh, and feint is off global now too so that’s awesome

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:dracthyr_a1:

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Does feint still give a 30% dmg reduc on a short cd?

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I just verified it’s indeed off the gcd now lmao. Rogues have so much stuff off global with a baseline 1 sec gcd to boot it’s insane. It’s a 40% aoe/20% st wall that can have almost 50% uptime. They have to be trolling or just lazy playing cheat death if any other class had this they’d be over the moon.

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Is it a choice node now? I haven’t really bothered with looking at most class talents anymore

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Yeah it is

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So you can’t have feint and cheat at the sametime, that’s something I guess.

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I love playing Rsham, but it feels entirely gutless atm.
A fun and great kit that you can’t really use. If you push out or fall behind it’s ogre.
Korean apm raid heal min maxing yet if the entire team doesn’t play around the fact that you’re basically useless then it’s all for nothing.

Rogue seems good, I just don’t like the play style anymore as far as the rotation and prebuff abilities. It’s just not very fun to play, sub anyway.

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You have just been farmed by the same rogues for a long time that is all. I cant pilot this class out of a paper bag in pvp. Takes a lot of time and effort.

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probably takes a week of consistent effort to be functioning at the class

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What a great answer to my question, since you skip over it last time, here it is again

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DH is at the bottom?

Yep, it’s correct.

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but that wont get you nowhere near sniffing any decent rating. The complaints are from people who get farmed by the same 12 rogues and their 3 alt rogues.

As far as torture goes, i guess im thinking pve at the end of the day. I dont think the defensives are all that great. multi min cds for vanish, cloak and evasion. Can easily kill a rogue stunned no problem. If the rogue is stealth afk waiting for cds, and you arent pushing the advantage, that is on you.

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Generally can easily kill a stunned anything

And why would pvpers remotely care about how classes are performing in pve?

You can think that all you want, it’s incorrect, but you’re free to think it.

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Rogue struggled in 10.0.7 with the retpocalypse because ret was unkillable and also perma dispelled poisons as well as having sanc/bubble/bop… however, assassination rogue was the strongest spec in the game for the 2 months prior to that

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Thank you Nas.

Blizzard really needs to restore my link posting privileges. These reaction gifs just don’t hit the same when they’re not in real time.

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