Are the Void Elves a liability?

a human necromancer?

Yea he briefly controlled lilian cause she had never been exposed to domination before, the majority of the forsaken have

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The forsaken didn’t break free to begin with.
Nerzhul bled his power to launch Frostmourne out of the frozen throne. Also something something illidan

the lore literally is they broke free, otherwise literally every undead would have gotten free

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No? This isn’t a black and white fallacy. If nerzhul lost control of some undead that doesn’t mean he loses control of all of them.

and yet every lore sources says they broke out, both can be true nerzhul was weakened and they broke out

Nathaniel Blightcaller.
Even Sylvanas doesn’t know why she’s free.

yea he was broken free by the power of love. the forsaken broke free cause they retained their strong will

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Sylvanas freed him just like she freed the traveler forsaken I can never remember the name of.

Still amazed that Horde players can visit Amirdrassil.

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The only reason they allowed it was so they could point to it when they make Midnight – and Silvermoon – alliance-centric.

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That’s just a weak excuse to make sure No one complains when Alleria becomes queen of Quel’thalas.

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God, they would wouldn’t they?

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Blizzard has alliance bias. TWW proves it. They will Not shy away from this anymore so the handful high elf fans can feel good. I always expect the worst.

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Wretched and Withered are kinda different.

Withered comes in the absence of magic - of course it is easier to solve by feeding the victims of it a very magic-heavy source.

Wretched is the result of an abundance and mismanaged amount of magic - you are likely not going to solve this by… well, as it is described, feeding the victim of it a very magic-heavy source.

Something that I do ponder though. High Elves and Nightborne have had a similar connection to a fairly powerful magical well that sustained their magic need for a very long time. The Nightborne can be cut off from the well, but we have had no example of people being cut off from the Sunwell (without it being destroyed) quite the contrary, Kael’thas found no other solution but to destroy the well when it was corrupted when Arthas brought back Kel’thuzad, because the corrupted Sunwell was corrupting the High Elves (He might not have thought of cutting people off from the Sunwell, but we also had no examples of Lor’themar putting it in motion, not that he necessarily would have wanted to cut the traitor High Elves off).

So the connections are similar, kinda, but the absence of it differs. The Nightborne became the withered, the High Elves the wretched. Is the withered just Blizzard who ended up with the same misinformed and wrong fan idea, that the High Elven wretched state came by due to a lack of magic? Or did blizzard actually intend it like this.

No, they really aren’t. They are just more focused on combat. The brown orcs are in fact more advanced than humans technologically, because they rely fully on technology and nothing else unlike the humans who rely on magic also.

The trolls are far from primitive, they are simply more focused on shamanism, but that’s really based on the tribe, such as the Zandalari who make humans look like apes when it comes to culture.

The only really primitive Horde races are Tauren and … bleh… fox things. Tauren cause they are simply not interested in anything but a peaceful simple life, nothing about their culture I’ve seen pushes them towards anything but that and the fox things, well, who cares.

And the reason you feel that way about humans is because the crappy writing has caused everyone, including the Horde to somehow adhere to the human set of morals, which is really stupid.

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I mean… shadowmoon clan used a lot of magic. The bleeding hollow clan made use of black magic.

The Warsong clan were mostly just a tribalistic warrior’s clan, and the Blackrock orcs were the smithing-steampunky clan.

The humans really just lack in the technology department, of course, it helps that they are in the Alliance, just like the different orc clans were in the Iron Horde.

With that said… why should the orcs not adhere to, not the human’s set of morals, but OUR, the player’s set of morals?

From the player’s perspective, should we okay with the tauren continueing to be allied with a race that permanently have their morals so far gone from OUR morals? As far as I am concerned, it does not make much sense.

The faction system really is a huge detriment to World of Warcraft if we are to discuss moral perspectives, because both factions are home to otherwise peaceful races that would rather everything be good and beautiful.

At the end of the day, all races are just humans with minor differences.

Because it simply does not work like that. WoW isn’t a sandbox game, it’s an RPG, your role and position is predetermined by your choice of race, faction and class. So no, you will have to adapt to the game’s morality. You choose the one that entertains you the most.

And what exactly do you mean by a player’s perspective? What our legit set of morals? That would be boring because I don’t think most people who play this game would even be ok with killing wolves to collect their butts or whatever. Letting the game be based on player’s morality would be incredibly boring.

And no, the faction system is one of the things that made this game what it is 20 years later and the moral issue, we go back to the above said, it’s not based on the player’s set of morals, but rather the game’s, you play an orc you are expected to see things from the perspective of an orc, so while in real life you wouldn’t go around hitting people with an axe cause they look funny, in game you do. That’s why player morality does not work in this game.

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Are the Void Elves a liability?

Absolutely. It’s only because Alleria spoke for them that they have a place in the Alliance. Everything we’ve seen of the void so far indicates that it’s only a matter of time before things get out of hand. They have one card in their sleeves with the guidance of Locus-Walker, who has apparently been toeing that line for a very long time. However, I personally continue to regard my void elf kind of like a psyker in 40K. I imagine her has maintaining strict mental discipline and vigilance at all times in order to remain an asset and not a liability.

The situation with Xal really reminds me of a certain story line in GW2, Heart of Thorns and I’d love to see them go in that direction. But I doubt they will. If you know, you know.

I can’t help but imagine you as the Alex Jones of WoW lore sometimes. I mean, hey, I get it, I feel a certain way about a certain cluster of vanilla clans in another game that are constantly ignored in favor of new shoe-horned races. I just can’t muster the same ire for this game though. lol Just please don’t start trying to sell us arcano-holy supplements straight from the Sunwell.

Alex Jones spreads fake news. I spread doomer sentiment.