Absolutely egregious after being told not all tanks can be good at everything that the only other tank having AOE issues got a huge AOE threat buff, but rogues got basically spit on. Is increasing the threat modifier on shuriken really going to upend the entirety of SOD? Is me just flat out not being able to tank when you specifically made a tanking rune for rogues the intended design?
We are good tanks niw we literalll take no damage in g omer on most fights. If people ate telling you rogue tanks are bad tats because their bad at them
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Rogue tank seems to be in a good spot. Our main tank is a rogue and doesn’t seem to have any threat or mitigation problems.
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Why expect tanks to be great at everything? Who cares if you can’t hold AOE threat in dungeons, basically no one can to mages/warlocks. Our MT for Gnomer is a rogue and it’s awesome on single target tanking which is every boss there. The OT takes care of AOE type crap and the rogue tank basically takes no damage on bosses, it’s very nice to heal.
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i appreciate all of you not even reading my post, as i addressed literally everyone of these comments, why are ONLY rogues bad at aoe threat? Its not “not all tanks are good at everything” its “ONLY rogue tanks are bad at aoe threat, so you don’t get to tank dungeons”
real happy for you all we pass the bare minimum for being able to single target tank, but when enh shaman DPS is a better tank than me while im geared and runed for it i question why im playing this spec.
Warriors are bad at AoE too.
I think deleting your Rogue is the best solution for you
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I did read all of it and responded in kind. Our tank can pull packs of 4-6 and as long as the DPS gives him a second or two to establish threat he doesn’t have any issues.
I main tank for my raid as a rogue, and if you’re intending to clear efficiently, you’re not going to have AoE threat on anything. You’re a glorified taunt bot for trash, and Menagerie you need a head start unlike other classes if you want threat on all three mobs, shuriken toss won’t do anything against that.
Shuriken Toss should be buffed, there’s no reason for us to have a capped (and insanely poorly-scaling) AoE rune while other dps are able to have uncapped runes that scale extremely well.
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All I’m saying from my experience as a shaman whose main tank is a rogue we’ve had no issues and clear in an hour. If you have to tell your dps to give you a sec for threat on aoe pulls. Use shuriken to pull and tab target auto attacking and using abilities to establish threat.
Rogue tanks are viable.
They aren’t the best at anything, but as many folks have said - they work.
I understand that, but you need to realize that even with several seconds there’s still going to be threat issues if your dps have half a brain and know how to use their rotation on trash mobs.
Shuriken toss is capped at 5 mobs, does roughly 75-90 damage at absolute best, and is only affected by BAFW threat modifier. The 200 threat you get (around 280 with alpha spirit) won’t matter when one stormstrike+autos do over 1k threat in a single global.
I’m not saying rogue tanks are bad or that they can’t tank trash, I can do that just fine. I’m saying don’t give rogues an AoE tool if it’s going to be useless at it.
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I’m glad people are starting to see how good rogue tanks are. I’ve been proving to people on these forums for a couple weeks now that rogue tanking is perfectly fine. Aoe threat should only be an issue if your dps are impatient.
Also, like others are saying, rogue tanks take like NO damage. Our mitigation is arguably the best out of any tank right now.
Prioritize stamina for stats. Learn how to tab target effectively while keeping Blade Dance and Slice N Dice active 100%. Instant Poison on both weapons. Lastly, don’t let some people on these forums convince you Main Gauche is bad. It’s really not. Just learn to use it and you’ll be fine.
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If one mob gets ripped from you in melee it’s not that much of an issue. It happens. If one from your ranged group rips threat. Taunt it and attack it for a little bit to get a threat lead. I don’t know what our tank runs but it’s never been an issue. Melee goes in and focuses the same mob tank is on while everyone is cleaving. Afterwards range uses aoe and packs fall over.
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As a deep prot warrior I would love a word about being bad at AoE threat. Have you heard the good word of our lord and savior Thunder Clap, the 4 target cap frequently resisted can’t be used while silenced for some reason AoE?
How about the second coming of tab sunder while rage starved and competing with burst DPS that go ham when they see you charge in?
Does Shuriken Toss need some love? Probably. Are Rogue Tanks the only ones struggling with AoE threat? No.
I really can’t say it any better than this.
I’m aware of how to tank trash, like I mentioned I’m not saying that rogue tanks are inherently bad at tanking trash. It requires far more effort than other classes, and a majority of the tanks (4 out of the 6) have proper AoE tanking tools for trash.
For a rogue tank starting out, it’s not as easy. The skill floor to skill ceiling for tanking something like a dungeon or raid is different compared to the previously mentioned tanks (locks, shamans, pallies, druids).
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Exactly. Does Shuriken Toss need just 1 more small buff? Sure. That probably wouldn’t hurt. But aoe threat is always a level of difficulty that should be a thing.
If you have trigger-happy dps running in and not giving you at least 2-3 seconds to establish aggro, that’s not on the tanks. That’s on the dps completely. Stop being bad dps and actually let tanks do their job.
Like i said if shamas are pulling aggro taunt it back our warlocks cb their hearts out if the get aggro i het it ringt back. And if dps cant eatch their threat thats a dps issue. They shoulbt go hame intil tanks have a min or tue no matter what tank. Point blabk if uou cant hold threat as a rouge yhats a you problem
rogue tanks are good enough 
yeah, holding aggro on multiple enemies is hard… welcome to being a tank.
Huh didn’t know my class was bad considering I avoid more damage then the other tank classes. I don’t want to be king at aoe threat. Cause if we’re king at it then we aren’t king at actually tanking. Can’t be good at everything. Plus the only time you need aoe is trash. But just have a cat switch to bear and swipe away. Dungeons can really test your abilities as a rogue tank. Tab around and you’ll hold agro. Maybe barely. It’s also up to dps to watch their threat. This isn’t retail. I call out my dps that go full in and die. They realize they pulled threat.
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