are societies useless ? i made some good friends through guilds , talking to discord and raiding. single player games are this way —->>
I see. I view low differently.
Different opinions? It’s crazy 
Have a gud one
I’d have just left it as a “like” as my final reply but I’ve run out and… I’d feel rude not saying “You too” so… You too 
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Life man. We all disappoint at times. I’m not worried.
Xo
Guilds are a hit and miss proposition.
The guilds I am in are fairly quiet. Seldom is there more then 3-4 players on at any time of the day that I play.
I always say Hello, Hi or good morning, afternoon or evening. I seldom get a reply.
The perks are ok. Heirloom Gear and a couple of mounts once you hit exalted. There are tabards available to boost your rep with the guild. See the Guild Vendor. Fishing and Cooking Daily Quests are great for building rep.
Some guilds have regular events. They are scheduled in mine but for some reason, no one shows up.
A lot of guilds have dungeon and raid teams. Good luck getting on one of those.
Guilds of today are not like the guilds of old.
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you can get your gear up to 233 in Korthia. Do you need exceptional gear for solo play? No you need gear earned through solo play for that. It just takes a little time, but you’ve probably got about a year before 10.0 comes out.
That sounds like you’ve mostly been joining cesspool guilds, which is not the true guild experience.
I can’t imagine WoW keeping subs with a possible year of more shadowlands 
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Most raiding guilds are starving for players. It shouldn’t be hard at all to join one
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I’ve personally given up on guilds - I’ve been in many guilds during my 16 years here and seen a LOT of garbage (I could tell stories). Now, I just create my own guild and put all my characters in it to share the guild bank. I’m too old to put up with childish nonsense anymore.
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You have been in a lot of trash guilds to come to that conclusion.
Ive been playing WoW, on and off since 2004. I recently came back last year. Trying to find dungeons and raids to play alone was pretty much impossible, because my ilvl was very low, which was a vicious cycle, because, how can you get higher gear when you can’t get accepted into any groups? Finally, a few months ago, I was accepted into a guild. They were amazing, they ran keys with me right away to help me gear up, etc. I was so grateful and would tell them this all the time and always offered my help with anything, should they ever need it. I want to make it clear that I honestly had no expectations from them and always pulled my own weight because I would never want to feel like a burden.
Last week, I was overwrought with not hearing from friends and family in Ukraine. I’m not stellar in dungeons and raids, but I read up on the mechanics and put my best foot forward. Before this, the dungeon/raid invites pretty much came to a halt, so I tested out the waters asking how I could improve, etc., for fear that I’d be kicked if I didn’t perform well. Keep in mind this guild takes dungeons and raids very seriously, they are really top performers, and know the mechanics, etc. pretty much by heart, whereas I was just starting out. But I learned as quickly as I could. Then the new raid came out for Eternity’s End. I was really excited and worked hard to try and reach the ilvl 240, I’m at ilvl 238 right now. I knew something wasn’t right when all of a sudden, someone asked me if I had my level 262 item crafted and was I ready for that night, I had no clue what they were talking about as raids are always announced and posted in guild chat, so I figured they’d most likely bring me up to speed that night. I logged in and after no response from gchat, I took a look on discord and there they all were, raiding with the guild. So, I thought to myself, well, I’m not good so I guess that’s why. Because of that, I felt that with my personal situation with regards to Ukraine, that my performance wouldn’t be up to par enough for them, so I sent a message and quit the guild. Right away I was contacted by a couple of the officers and they were very understanding and didn’t want me to leave, so I came back. I also made an official apology to everyone in the guild for I did and why. It was met with a couple of snarky responses, but I felt I deserved it. Since then, none of my chats are answered, I know they’re busy, but before, we would always talk, etc. I can’t tell you how hard it is to watch them all play together and have fun, getting all the achievements done together, etc. Absolutely no one talks to me anymore, or responds to anything I say. Only two have ever responded and it’s been through whisper, something they never, ever did before. I wouldn’t wish how I feel on anyone. I gave it a couple of days, thinking things would sort out, but nothing. Basically, I’ve been ghosted. I have no friends that play either, so I’m now completely isolated. I love playing this game, but playing alone isn’t easy and let’s face it, when you see the guild chat, everyone chatting away, grouping together, etc., and I’m completely ignored, it’s very hard to take. Trying to find another guild will take a while too, I applied several times with no response for weeks until I was accepted. Going forward, I have no idea what to do, I’m not afraid to say that yes, I feel very hurt, I feel like I’ve been slapped in the face…with a chair.
I have never been part of a guild but my son had his own years ago and he used to tell people: ‘It’s like anything else, you get out of it what you put into it.’
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They wanted you to have a 262 leggo for a normal raid?
Honestly, I would bounce out of that guild if I were you. I would do it even before I find a new guild. Sometimes a new guild finds you if you don’t have a tag. Sometimes it just isn’t a good fit.
Also don’t let it discourage you. Use it as fuel to get better at the game, don’t let them make you feel like you aren’t good enough and you should quit. It’s all about practice. In time you will be as good as you wanted to be.
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Absolutely not. WoW goes as far as your guild, imo. It’s still an MMO. Good guild = the game is great fun, bad/no guild = game is boring
In the current state of the game I’d say they are unless you’re wanting to progress into harder content.
Hi, yes, I’m thinking I will have to bounce, it’s no longer what would call a healthy environment for me, and like you said, sometimes the fit just isn’t there. Thank you 
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If you get in a good, friendly, active guild, it can improve the gameplay experience tremendously.
If you are in an inactive or dead guild, it can make the game feel incredibly empty.
The problem is knowing which is which ahead of time.
I love my current guild, and I’ve been in a few great guilds (still have a toon in nearly all of them), made some great long term friends from guilds.
I’ve found that you get out of guilds what you put in, so if you have a bad history with guilds you’re probably the problem.
Also, Protip, don’t join a guild with a meme name, it’s just some dude who thought it would sound cool/funny and has no intention of actually leading a guild.
Guilds can be hit or miss, but I think they are not a waste of time. It is incredibly difficult to find a good guild. That said, if anyone is on Proudmoore and is looking for a good guild hit up anyone from my guild and we’ll welcome you with open arms and no hazing.