Its easy to kite pretty much any melee but I feel like I have no way to heal.
So even if I can kite an enh shaman for 30 seconds straight, if he is competent. The few hit he lends on me might be enough to kill me.
Sounds like a player issue or are we expeted to require a healer ?
We have few defensive and low heals. Best you can do is burn all your cd and do the max damage you can while trying to interrupt heals
Player issue. Utilize your defensives better, notably renewing blaze.
I keep finding matches where I get focused even before the healer haha. At least we have mobility but some better defensive/ heals would be nice
Care to explain ? Cuz renewing blaze is really our only defencive CD outside of kitting tools.
Scale is used with shroud to ensure initial burst.
Blaze is usefull against DK that grip + pale horse or bladestorm warrior or else, to prevent initial connect.
Outside of it, I don’t see what I could do to not feel fragile.
My mage can tank far more.
Devastation feel like a catch me if you can deal. If you can, i die, if you can’t you’ll die.
Maybe stop using a 40% wall offensively
No it’s not, obsidian scales is huge. Learn to juke or when to use it. You also have two charges, using one during dragon rage still leaves you another for defensive play.
You also have time stop which is huge if used properly to stop incoming damage and just completely negate peoples burst on you.
You also have a MASSIVE shield and effectively get out of jail free card with rescue.
You can also use deep breath to break roots and stun people gunning for you while also repositioning yourself better.
Not everything is a stand still and turret gameplay style, which dev certainly is not.
Who’s catching you other than marks hunters, aff locks, and frost mages?
Even into those the only one that’s genuinely miserable to fight is marks hunter.
In a word, yes they are. Devastation is meant to be mobility over defense. Or in other words, your best defense is to not get hit at all.
It’s not a skill issue like some like to claim, that’s just trolling. Each class has its own method of surviving under fire and the method for devoker is not a common one. Since dev has so few defensives, some of which are conditional and require very specific circumstances to get the best use of, devoker’s best tactic in PvP can be summarized in one word: elusiveness.
The real issue is learning how to react to other classes and that translates to it being an experience issue. Skill =/= experience. You could say that devoker’s defense strategy is reactive defense. That is to say, trying your best to guess what’s coming and when and be ready for it.
In short, devoker is very fragile in PvP, but they have unique methods of handling that, which you simply need to practice at to have a better chance at surviving and winning.
Take that fight against the enhance for example. What I would have done is my best to slow with disintegrate while hovering away, CC with sleep walk or avalanche as needed to gain time and distance , pop renewing blaze along with scales if he reaches you, and gain distance and while doing damage with a stunning deep breath. Devoker are also good at taking advantage of terrain with knock backs and jumping glides to different platforms or elevations.
The only thing conditional about evoker’s defensives is rescue, which most I’ve seen just never use because obsidian scales by itself is sufficient as a defensive. Dev is strongest against melee as you can just kite them literally forever, but let’s not pretend that it has few or weak defensives when you’re using them on air.
The space in arena is too small favors melee, devastation really shine in open world pvp.
Go in the arena forums and tell melee they’re favored against devastation because arena maps are too small. You only have a 25 yard range, how far are you trying to kite?
Oh. It looks like having extra space isn’t really doing you any favors in blitz. Stop trying to blame the class and call it what it is, suboptimal play.
I literally pray for melee lobbies when im qing rss on my devoker. They’re so free. Idk what all these guys are talking about lol