Are Death Knights evil or good?

I would say that they are more like anti heroes like the Demon Hunters

Well, I try to serve the light. I did not ask to be raised as a DK, I used to be a hero. I remember…

So, yes I must kill to survive, but I try very hard to Only kill the “bad guys.” Meaning basically the Horde (those that are not DK’s anyway.) :wink: However other nasty things also work. Demons, Naga… Yeah those work just fine.

Regardless of whether they’re evil or not, I think we can all agree they’re generally pretty simple minded people.


sigh

Just…sigh

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“Regardless of whether they’re evil or not, I think we can all agree they’re generally pretty simple minded people.”

I beg your pardon!

Oh, well you are Horde after all.

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Better question: why can’t an undead DK be part of the alliance? Like, he/she was human. Then became forsaken. Then lost his/her memory when he/she became a DK.

Koltiras is a third generation death knight along with Thassarian. They were both raised by Arthas.
Mograine was raised by Kel’thuzard iirc.

well doing the class mount quest i did kill all the Red Dragon’s so ya i have no remorse.

Koltira was killed by Thassarian and then raised during the conquest of Quel’thalas which puts them not only before the third generation was raised for the attack against the Argent Dawn but it means they served Ner’zhul. That definitely makes them second generation.

The whole thing is of course confusing because the idea of the Knights of Acherus being separate to the rest of the death knights is, I would say, something the players have decided rather than something that Blizzard intended.

Depends on the players story for them really.

Mine is no different than when he was alive, so hes still a good person.

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/shrugs
up to you to believe it.

only sayin what i believe, you can go ahead and look it up if you want, few lore sites out there that may help.

They’re definitely not good. They have an inherent need to cause suffering, pain, and death. Every ability they have is designed to cause suffering, pain, and death. They can fight it, they can not give in, but it’s painful to them and it goes against their natures.

A warrior can hit with the flat of his blade, a mage can use “lesser” magics, a rogue can pull his punches, a paladin can have mercy on his beaten foes, but a death knight? If you’re fighing a death knight… one of y’all’s gonna die.

I am unsure if that counts them as second generation because those who were second generation, were those like Arthas and are seemingly bound to a runic weapon.

The third generation DK’s use their rune weapons to fight, but are not bound to it as the others were.
So would we still consider Koltiras and Thassarian second generations?

Thasarrian spared Kol Tiras, and he managed to hold onto his beliefs.

DK’s are not inherently evil. They’re like anyone else. Force for good or evil depending on choice.

They are neither good or bad, they are grey.
However I am evil.

With that ugly headpiece you certainly are evil.

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Either they’re confused, or they got me confused. After I started rolling one not that long ago, I couldn’t tell if I was an orc, death knight, or undead, and/or if I was part of the horde.

Evil… or good?

That’s very very restrictive toward human nature. I think you’re missing a couple of shades.

Short answer? They do things you would normally consider to be immoral for the greater good. Like the CIA or FBI I suppose. (don’t ask details as I’ll end up sounding like a tinfoil hat I guess, just do your own research)

I had personally seen the distinction drawn on when they were raised with the third generation being the knights mass recruited in the build up for the attack on Light’s Dawn.

I’ve never seen anything suggesting that second generations were bound to their blades in the same way as Arthas, do you have a source on that? I probably don’t know as much about pre-WoW death knights as I should.

We’ll have to disagree. if you read the lore and how the class is described, the urge to cause suffering, pain, and death is a part of them. They can fight against it, certainly, but… it’s instinctive, and the desire to cause suffering, pain, and death is… pretty evil.

Despite irl where humans have the same instinct

Are humans by nature evil? If so, if that’s our nature, then that is the standard and is not evil as we decide what’s moral.