Are any "hero" level dinar weapons even worth it?

At best they are going to go to ilvl 671, and a crafted weapon automatically goes to 675, with a boost option as well. Sure, it means burning sparks, but no cantrip on a heroic is going be worth 10 item levels is it?

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I don’t know, you should sim it.

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It all depends on how you define “worth it.”
Sorry about the non-specific answer but it genuinely is as simple as that. There are better options kinda, but you can also get your weapon with an embellishment and in some cases that’s the best thing you can do - at least if you are a caster for an example.

So it genuinely just depends on how you define what you consider “worth it” to mean.

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I would, but this is for an alt that’s not fully geared yet, just trying to think ahead, you know? And I could throw on some theoretical gear to do the math, but ugh.

No, I mean raidbots did a page specifically to sim it. You can see how much dps a new stave is going to net you by constructing it in a quick sim.

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I fully understand, and that’s where I was at. None of my chars are going to get the mythic items, because I simply don’t have consistent large blocks of time to run mythic raiding, and bluntly I don’t have enough gold to pay for one carry, let alone for the dozens of alts I enjoy playing.

In this specific case, it’s for a druid, that I mainly play guardian or feral, but sometimes boomkin, and just delves or LFR or world content, maybe some low level M+ in the future for kicks, and since he’s an alt, I don’t already have a crafted weapon. Although gilded are easy enough to come by. But the best in slots sure is enticing as it can be for boomer spec too, saving what, 4 crafted sparks? So it’s “good” enough for the heroic cantrip cartel chip weapon but it’s not as good as the crafted one (which sucks, honestly).

This just led me to the more philosophical question of are any of them worth it in terms of being even nearly as good, or are all of them simply settling? Just kind of lame, really, that something that seemed so interesting and cool is so meh.

If you are asking this from a philosophical perspective, then I can offer you a practical answer: Yes - because every single crafted item is more valuable and better for you in the long-term and, often, in the short-term than what anything you could buy using the puzzling chip thingies.

The reason why isn’t just high ilvl but simply because you can upgrade 'em this season, and the next. Alongside with being able to get essentially near perfect stats via crafted gear, it means that crafted gear is simply just better for your characters than anything any one season can offer.

At which point, get the stuff you likely can’t get from crafted gear, and if you are playing multiple specializations - specialization agnostic items are likely going to be your best choice; things like the Jaster Diamond or Eye of Kezan.

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It will also depend on what content you’re doing. Most of the cantrip weapons from raid are pretty solidly single-target oriented, and even then only very, very minor boosts. For delves and M+ where you’re routinely wanting to do large group damage, their additional value over their ilevel is quite low. The Best-in-Slots is probably the only potential case for competing with a crafted item in those scenarios.

Overall, I would think it a general rule of thumb that Hero track trinkets are the best way to spend your dinar if you’re never going to access the Myth track options, because they have the fewest competitive alternatives, and crafted gear in other slots is more likely to retain value into future seasons. The only other exception would be the Jastor Diamond, especially if you’re playing a Mastery-loving spec.

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The part about being able to upgrade next season is a fantastic point, I actually forgot about that. Probably seals the deal.

Thanks!

No caster is using a staff anyways.

I always keep a staff for upgrading purposes but I prefer a shield.

Is this true? I honestly never play my casters beyond fun screwing around, so have no idea. I mean, I can go look up stuff, just figured I’d ask.

If you are playing any form of PVE content somewhat seriously you are crafting one offhand and either using a heroic weapon or crafting a main hand because of the embelishments.

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You can seriously just get a patch for boots or something to go with the embellished staff.

My guess (and it is purely a guess) is that the agility fist weapon might be worth in the off hand slot for some classes maybe due to the proc? But that would depend on the strength of the effect. I assume since it drops off Mugzee that it’s strong, but :dracthyr_shrug:

My 608 alt is gonna love a 665 weapon because its their biggest upgrade and having said upgrade sooner than it takes me to get 60 gilded crests, especially at 608 ilvl, will be extremely useful

Save crafted stuff for those elusive slots

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Ascendance has to go on a weapon/offhand.

Every single guide goes weapon/OH because of the spark cost.

I bought a sword for tanking.

If you’re not doing mythic progression or high keys, it doesn’t matter what you get, you won’t get the full use from it.

Question to ask yourself is ‘Am i going to do content that will give me higher than Hero gear?’ If the answer is yes then don’t get Hero weapons.

Other reason to get them is if you don’t plan to save up gilded crests to craft the 675/681 weapons.

I don’t get crafted stuff most often, because if a guildie or myself doesn’t craft it, I don’t screw with trade chat. So for me, Best in Slots was worth it.